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Looking to buy my first Merc

Discussion in 'General Mercedes-Benz Related Discussion' started by Pinball_Wizard, Apr 9, 2019.

  1. Pinball_Wizard

    Pinball_Wizard New Member

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    Hey All

    I have just sold my 2006 BMW 650 (most breathtakingly unreliable car I've ever owned, will try not to get into that too much but it caused me so much pain I'm struggling to move past it! :D)

    Anyhow; I want to buy a Mercedes. I know next to nothing about them and could really do with some suggestions.

    The most important thing for me at this point is reliability; I know that parts/labour/servicing will be expensive with these luxury vehicles but I did not anticipate the frequency of problems I experienced with that ****ing 6 series.

    My budget is around 10k, I don't want an estate or another coupe.

    I read that the E-Class built between 2009-2016 are decent cars? Also read some good things about the C-Class 2007-2014?

    I have no real preference for diesel or petrol and the car will mostly be used on weekends.

    I would still like some power as going from driving a 4.8L V8 to a tiny engine might be a bit of a shock!

    I hope you guys can help!

    Thank you

    Daniel
     
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  2. Tony Dyson

    Tony Dyson Senior Member

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    Welcome, you're in good company, I never saw the attraction to BMW anyway :)
     
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  3. sonixtorm

    sonixtorm New Member

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    I’d suggest having a look at an E350d of the vintage you suggested. The v6 diesel is a real peach and overall very reliable.
     
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  4. wivenhoe

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    I am on my 7th Mercedes so obviously very happy with them. But, if I was in the market for a rapid, V6 petrol hybrid, very comfortable, ultra reliable £ 10k car I would look at a Lexus GS450h hybrid. I had one from new and it was the car I kept the longest. However, you have to be sure you can live with a boot half the size of a E Class or 5 Series - the batteries rob all the space. A review can be seen https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/lexus/gs/saloon-2005-2011/review
    Typical £ 10k car - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903296410809?sort=sponsored&price-from=9500&radius=1500&model=GS 450H&postcode=cb62jl&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&make=LEXUS&price-to=11000&page=1
    If you can get a 2012 upgrade onward then the boot size is no longer a problem and everything much improved https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/lexus/gs/saloon/review
     
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  5. Dean Fletcher

    Dean Fletcher Senior Member

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    I have an E250 coupe you can get a decent one under 10k now. Great car love it to bits but has had a few issues which seemed fairly uncommon as mine was all stemmed from one issue.
     
  6. AJD

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    What !! The gentleman is asking about MB and you are suggesting a Lexus, tut tut !! :rolleyes::D:eek:
     
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    In my defence I did say I am on my 7th and really happy with them !
     
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    Pinball_Wizard

    Pinball_Wizard New Member

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    Amazing guys! Lots of very helpful (and quick!) replies. Thank you very much.

    I think I might have settled for an E350CDI Saloon but where to begin? What do I need to look out for?
    After my last experience I like the idea of a decent length warranty, and full MB service history would be nice!
    What do you make of any of this lot on autotrader?
    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?sort=price-desc&radius=50&postcode=bn150dw&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&make=MERCEDES-BENZ&model=E CLASS&aggregatedTrim=E350 CDI&price-from=9000&price-to=11000&body-type=Saloon&seller-type=trade
     
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    Second one down for me looks very nice.
     
  11. malcolm210

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    Good choice of car:

    - Make sure you buy it with leather upholstery not Artico (man made stuff which splits)

    - Buy the 265bhp engine

    - Make sure it has COMAND

    - Check that the oil cooler (buried deep in the vee of the engine) isn’t leaking ££££s to fix

    - 19in wheels look good but provide a stiff ride

    Other than that and the other obligatory checks good luck with your search
     
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    Hi Daniel and welcome to the forum. Having lived with the 350CDI engine for eight years, I can wholeheartedly support the recommendation.
     
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    Plenty of choice there, get the newest one possible, see if it has the 265bhp engine in and as has been said check for oil leaks at the back of the engine
     
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    Welcome buddy :D , yep the 350cdi is a beauty if your driving distance supports a diesel choice . Put what area you live in under your username so the important work of finding a decent MB Independent for you can be recommended by forum members
     
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    E500 is a beaut with a 5.5L V8
     
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    Thank you very much again; you've all been incredibly helpful.

    I've changed my mind somewhat after looking at pictures on autotrader and decided I much prefer the look of the coupe.

    What is the legroom in the back like with these?

    In regards to mentions of oil leaks, this fills me with dread! I think I had something like 5 engine leaks in that ****** 6 series (2 coolant and 3 oil). I ended up absolutely hating the thing; I remember I actually spat on it one time out of disgust :D

    Is this something I could check myself? (bearing in mind I know very little of the mechanics of a car; I just like driving nice ones!)

    I have updated the location in my profile now so hopefully you guys can advise of a decent independent specialist.

    I also read in some other threads on the forum that some of these "approved dealers" don't even really check the cars properly before selling and only rectify issues once they become apparent? That is a little concerning.

    How do I know if it has COMAND? I don't think I've seen this mentioned on any of the listings I've looked at or may have just missed it.

    Is it helpful to get the VIN so I can check the specs? I read someone mention https://www.datamb.com/ on another thread.

    Also in regards to Bluetooth, specifically do these cars have enhanced bluetooth (i.e. I can stream music directly from my phone?) (Galaxy S9 FYI)

    Cheers

    Daniel
     
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  17. JBell

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    The E Coupe is actually a C Class chassis, it is designated C207, leg room is OK

    It is an easy fix, 2 oil seals that cost £4 each and 6-8 hours labour, you need to look under the car at the rear of the engine undertray for oil

    Some one will recommend one

    COMAND is the sat nav

    As you have an S9 look for the "VIN Decoder for Mercedes Benz" APP (Blue square with VD in white), brilliant APP that will email you the spec of any MB

    I don't think you can stream music, just put it on a Memory stick, should plug into the glovebox
     
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    Great, thanks very much.

    I have enquired about this one https://www.auto-sportiva.com/used-cars/9951676-mercedes-benz-e-class-3.0-e350-cdi-sport-auto-2dr/

    Here is the VIN info

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    VIN: WDD2073222F037097
    FIN: WDD2073222F037097 6
    Manufacturer: Mercedes-Benz
    Model: E 350 CDI
    Order number: 0 9 537 60822
    Delivery date: 26 01 2010
    Equipment: 101A IMITATION LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE
    Paint code: 197U OBSIDIAN BLACK
    Engine #: 642836 40 930571
    Variant: A 642 010 93 97
    Transmission #: 722902 02 582996

    SA codes

    030 ELECTR. REGULATED DIESEL FUEL PUMP
    050 AEJ 09/2
    100A IMITATION LEATHER
    101A IMITATION LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE
    108 CONTROL CODE MARKETING
    197U OBSIDIAN BLACK
    205B OWNERS MANUAL AND SERVICE RECORD - ENGLISH
    213 SPEED-SENSITIVE POWER STEERING/VARIO STEERING
    230 PARKING GUIDANCE
    236 ADAPTIVE REAR INTERIOR LIGHT
    249 INSIDE AND OUTSIDE MIRROR AUTOMATIC DIMMING
    255B No code designation available
    277 SPORTS STEERING WHEEL
    283B AIRBAGLABLE - ENGLISH
    305B HEAD UNIT LANGUAGE - BRITISH ENGLISH
    310 DUAL CUP HOLDER
    335B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - ENGLISH
    409 FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT MULTICONTOUR SEAT
    427 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7-SPEED
    428 STEER.WHEEL GEARSHIFT BUTTONS/SHIFT PADDLE PAINTED
    43P CONTROL CODE MARKETING
    461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
    474 DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER
    477 TIRE PRESSURE LOSS WARNER
    486 SPORTS SUSPENSION
    512 COMAND APS WITH DVD CHANGER
    518 UNIVERSAL COMMUNICATIONS INTERFACE (UCI)
    537L GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND
    551 ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
    580 AIR CONDITIONER
    5XXL EUROPE
    600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
    608 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH (IHC)
    619 CORNERING ILLUMINATION
    621 HEADLAMP WITH ILS. LEFT-HAND TRAFFIC
    666 PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/O TIE-DOWN HOOKS
    690 EMERGENCY SPARE TIRE (MINI SPARE)
    739 TRIM PIECES - ALUMINUM
    76V SPEED + LOAD INDEX 91Y+94Y XL
    772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER. SIDE SKIRT
    786 AMG DOUBLE-SPOKE WHEELS 18" WITH MIXED TIRES
    800 AEJ 09/1
    817 SIREN BRACKET FOR INCREASED THEFT PROTECTION
    873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
    875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
    882 INTERIOR SAFEGUARD
    885 HIGHTEN THEFT PROTECTION
    928 EXHAUST GAS CLEANING WITH EURO 5 TECHNOLOGY
    950 AMG SPORTS PACKAGE
    966 COC PAPER EURO 5 TECH. W/O REGIST. CERT. PART 2
    989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
    A22 NEW CONVERTER GENERATION
    A24 JOINT FLANGE. 4-ARM 120
    A31 SOFTWARE (INDIVIDUAL)
    A41 SOFTWARE 2
    A49 CONVERTER WITH 3 FRICTION DISKS
    A52 R- VALVE BODY ASSEMBLY WITH VGS 3
    B12 WHEEL REPLACEMENT TOOL
    F207 MODEL SERIES 207
    FC COUPE
    G902 TRANSMISSION CODE VERSION 02
    GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
    HA REAR AXLE
    J52 ADDITIONAL CODE FOR DAMPING MAT
    K10 SOFTWARE CONTROL FOR STATIC CURVE ILLUMINATION
    K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
    K13 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 25000 KM
    M019 SERVICE REPOSITIONED
    M30 DISPLACEMENT 3.0 LITER
    M642 V6 DIESEL ENGINE OM642
    NB6 CONTROL CODE BREMEN PLANT
    P35 LIGHT PACKAGE (FFO)
    P54 THEFT PROTECTION PACKAGE
    R RIGHT-HAND STEERING
    R01 SUMMER TIRES
    U01 REAR BELT STATUS INDICATION
    U18 AUTOMATIC CHILD SEAT RECOGNITATION (AKSE)
    U26 FLOOR MATS - AMG
    U60 PEDESTRIAN PROTECTION - ACTIVE ENGINE HOOD
    U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2. EUROPE. JAPAN
    VL FRONT AXLE HALF. LEFT
    VR FRONT AXLE HALF. RIGHT


    Any thoughts? It has been serviced every year by MB on the dot according to the chap I spoke with. 3 months parts and labour warranty but I think he said this is capped at £500 for engine parts which doesn't sound great. Apparently you can purchase an extended 15 month warranty for £295 which also includes wear and tear.

    Edit: Looks like this one has the smaller engine? :(
     
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  19. vtaylor78

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    I holdout for a bit of a later car, better command and the 265 BHP.
    That one is what I have with 233 BHP, but I’ve mapped mine :)
     
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    Looks nice and well looked after

    All the same size engine, don't worry, a simple Re-Map will take it to 300bhp and 700Nm of Torque ;)
     
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