M103 Engine using Shell V-Power Nitro

[Prof.C.Benz]

Morning all!...

I have never been a fan of any kind of flushing or cleaning fuel addatives in old engines as certain deposits can actually behelping plug any nooksand crannysthat have developed with age.

My question is, with this new Shell Fuel, could I loosen these positive deposits and cause long term problems in my M103 engine??

Also, am I completely wrong on using adatives and can a M103 comfortably dealwith a good cleaning, and will it help performance?

Thoughts please!..

 

[WG M-B]

My advice is run your car on standard 95 Ron fuel. It doesn't need fancy fuel at all. It will start and run better on standard fuel. A spot of fuel injection cleaner in the tank every few months will do it good.

 

[television]

As WG,,, there are those that think their MB runs better on the super, but just not true, they run often better on standard 95

 

[Prof.C.Benz]

OK, just a spanner in the worx. Yesterday, I got a bee in my bonnet about the Ethanol content of fuel in the UK, so I called BP, SHELL, Total & ESSO.

I just got off the phone from a lovely man, Simon who is a technician @ ESSO/Exxon He has let me know that ESSO Premium Fuels in the south of England (draw a line from the East coast to Norwich, Birmingham, Bristol then down to the south coast) contain 0% Ethanol. With no plans to add Ethanol to these fuels.

The only reason I will now be using Esso Premium is to avoid longterm damadge to seals and tank linning.

Also, the move to E10 fuel is not happening yet, but he has assured me that if they ever add ethanol to their premium fuels, it can only go up to E5 due to some kind of chemical limitations.

Total, now have Ethanol (E5) in all their fuels as of mid last year.

Still waiting to hear back from BP, SHELL.

 

[Prof.C.Benz]

From a very helpful lady. their official quote on the Ethanol matter... will also post in non-mb related forum.


"Dear Mr *****,

Thank you for contacting Esso Customer Care.

The majority of unleaded 95 Octane petrol sold in the UK contains 5%
ethanol as required under the Government’s Renewable Transport Fuels
Obligation (RTFO).

There is currently no requirement for renewable fuel (such as ethanol) to
be present in super unleaded (97 grade petrol). Esso super unleaded petrol
(Esso Energy Supreme) is ethanol free (except in Devon, Cornwall, the
Teesside area and Scotland) and we have no current intention to add ethanol
to Esso Energy Supreme in other areas of the UK.

We would therefore advise anyone who has concerns about the presence of
ethanol in petrol to use Esso Energy Supreme – providing they don’t fill up
in Devon or Cornwall, the Teesside area or Scotland.

The proportion of ethanol in 95 grade unleaded in the UK is expected to
increase to 10% in the next few years to meet increasing legislated
renewables content, bringing us into line with both France and Germany.

When this happens, the Government has legislated that super unleaded petrol
must be available at least until 1st January 2014 with no more than 5%
ethanol content. It remains to be seen whether the Government will decide
to extend that deadline, because the introduction of 10% ethanol in
unleaded in the UK has taken longer than originally envisaged.

Finally, you may be interested in the regulations relating to ethanol in
petrol. The RTFO was amended in 2009 and is listed under The Renewable
Transport Fuel Obligations (Amendment) Order 2009 Order 843 (
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2009/843/introduction/made). This
fulfils the requirements of the EU’s *Biofuels Directive of 8 May 2003 (
http://ec.europa.eu/energy/res/legislation/doc/biofuels/en_final.pdf), *and
Directive 2009/28/EC of 23rd April 2009 (
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:140:0016:0062:EN:PDF
), which promoted the use of energy from renewable sources.

Yours sincerely,

Anett Furedi

Customer Care Assistant UK&Ireland
Customer Service, Fuels & Lubricants, EAME
+ UK Customer Care, ExxonMobil House, MP 300, Ermyn Way, Leatherhead,
Surrey, KT22 8UX ( 020 7136 1798 7 020 7026 4728 :"

Hope this is useful to some of you... anyone driving any MB over 10 years should avoid Ethanol!

The Professor.

 

[Prof.C.Benz]

Reply from BP today... getting there...

Dear Mr *****,
*
Thank you for your email concerning the fuel sold by BP.
*
In most regions of the UK our Ultimate Unleaded dos not contain any Ethanol at present (South West UK excluded). This may of course change in the future as the specification allows up to 5%.
*
Our Regular grade gasoline does contain up to 5% bio ethanol in compliance with EN228 gasoline specification allowance in most regions of the UK.
All BP fuels, regular and BP Ultimate, contain additives which have cleaning and protection properties for the engine.* BP Ultimate has been rigorously tested on a wide range of vehicles, covering thousands of miles, in various conditions.* Its advanced formula offers a wide range of benefits including better fuel efficiency, more power, better responsiveness, and lower exhaust emissions, all of which gives long term benefit and value to the consumer and their vehicle.

BP does not supply Bio Ethanol as a fuel.
*
Thank you for taking the time to bring the matter to our attention and for allowing us the opportunity to respond to your concerns at this time.


*
Kind regards,
*
Agnes
*
Retail Customer Care Team
Email: careline@bp.com
Telephone: 0800 402402
Fax: 0845 082 1706
Internet:*www.bp.com*