Mercedes, Renault, Nissan, Chrysler, Dodge.?

SmartAmg

Senior Member
Joined
May 19, 2018
Messages
15,374
Reaction score
6,387
Your Mercedes
2011 E class coupe 350 CDI
I know Chrysler has had Mercedes engine's, notably the 300c and Crossfire. But has Mercedes had parts from other cars? The reason I ask is, i posted a pic of my car on my old forum,
Club Lupo, to which I got, it's a Chrysler, it's a Renault, it's a Nissan and even it's a Dodge :rolleyes:. Has Mercedes got any of the above parts, particularly Renault or Nissan , don't get me wrong I'm not bothered, just curious. :)
 

EmilysDad

Senior Member
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
12,120
Reaction score
5,664
Location
Bury Lancs
Your Mercedes
ML350
Loads of manufacturers team up with each other. The Merc X Class is a badge engineered Nissan Navara and the Twingo & Smart For4 are based on each other.

Chrysler & Dodge are both owned by Fiat ...
 

Blobcat

Moderator
Joined
Feb 8, 2006
Messages
38,787
Reaction score
27,424
Location
Grange Moor
Your Mercedes
R171 SLK280, Smart R451, Land Rover 110 County SW, 997 C2S, R1250 GSA TE 40th, CBR600FP
Renault engines in the A and B class I believe. Smart forfour was a Mazda. New X class is a nissan
 

rorywquin

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2016
Messages
9,488
Reaction score
6,385
Location
North Yorkshire
Your Mercedes
An old B-Class.
I know Chrysler has had Mercedes engine's, notably the 300c and Crossfire. But has Mercedes had parts from other cars? The reason I ask is, i posted a pic of my car on my old forum,
Club Lupo, to which I got, it's a Chrysler, it's a Renault, it's a Nissan and even it's a Dodge :rolleyes:. Has Mercedes got any of the above parts, particularly Renault or Nissan , don't get me wrong I'm not bothered, just curious. :)

My wife's B Class has a Renault engine.
 

sl500amgsport

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 25, 2017
Messages
2,061
Reaction score
2,141
Location
Essex
Your Mercedes
SL500 2014
My Mercruiser boat engine had Mustang parts (marinised)!

Mercedes SL500 R231
 

Craiglxviii

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 6, 2015
Messages
17,781
Reaction score
7,426
Location
Cambs UK
Your Mercedes
970 Panamera Turbo; W221 S500L AMG Line, C215 CL500, W251 R350L AMG Line, plus several more now gone
All Merc CVT boxes are Nissan. Most small Merc Diesel engines are Nissan (160 engines), many smaller petrols are Renault.
 
OP
SmartAmg

SmartAmg

Senior Member
Joined
May 19, 2018
Messages
15,374
Reaction score
6,387
Your Mercedes
2011 E class coupe 350 CDI
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #9
Mmm, never realised the extent of other manufacturers parts, fitted
To Mercs. :rolleyes::)
 

Blobcat

Moderator
Joined
Feb 8, 2006
Messages
38,787
Reaction score
27,424
Location
Grange Moor
Your Mercedes
R171 SLK280, Smart R451, Land Rover 110 County SW, 997 C2S, R1250 GSA TE 40th, CBR600FP
All Merc CVT boxes are Nissan. Most small Merc Diesel engines are Nissan (160 engines), many smaller petrols are Renault.
I must admit Renault did make a decent 1,300 cc turbo engine in the 80’s - Alan Jones used to have one IIRC :)
 

Craiglxviii

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 6, 2015
Messages
17,781
Reaction score
7,426
Location
Cambs UK
Your Mercedes
970 Panamera Turbo; W221 S500L AMG Line, C215 CL500, W251 R350L AMG Line, plus several more now gone
Loads of manufacturers team up with each other. The Merc X Class is a badge engineered Nissan Navara and the Twingo & Smart For4 are based on each other.

Chrysler & Dodge are both owned by Fiat ...
The X Class isn’t straight badge engineered unfortunately (oh were it so!) It takes the Navarra platform, but has a completely new body, bed, cab, doors, hood, interior & lighting pack. It’s just different enough to properly f*** up the production line.
 

Craiglxviii

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 6, 2015
Messages
17,781
Reaction score
7,426
Location
Cambs UK
Your Mercedes
970 Panamera Turbo; W221 S500L AMG Line, C215 CL500, W251 R350L AMG Line, plus several more now gone
Mmm, never realised the extent of other manufacturers parts, fitted
To Mercs. :rolleyes::)
It’s a fairly simple equation, the cost of development of an engine vs the recovery against that cost against the (perhaps) higher unit cost of buying someone else’s engine ready assembled. For smaller engines it tends not to be worth it to develop one’s own now.
 
OP
SmartAmg

SmartAmg

Senior Member
Joined
May 19, 2018
Messages
15,374
Reaction score
6,387
Your Mercedes
2011 E class coupe 350 CDI
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #15
It’s a fairly simple equation, the cost of development of an engine vs the recovery against that cost against the (perhaps) higher unit cost of buying someone else’s engine ready assembled. For smaller engines it tends not to be worth it to develop one’s own now.
Yep, that does make sense,
and yep I'm fairly simple. :rolleyes::)
 

Taffy7hfa

Senior Member
Joined
May 29, 2016
Messages
1,684
Reaction score
982
Location
Oxford
Your Mercedes
2002 ML 270 CDI,2016 Hyundai1.6 CRDI i30,2014 Peugeot 308 HDI. .6 HDI.
All Merc CVT boxes are Nissan. Most small Merc Diesel engines are Nissan (160 engines), many smaller petrols are Renault.
When I bought the ML back in 2012 the salesman was adamant it had the Chrysler 2.7 diesel engine, just wondering was it developed jointly or is it a Mercedes engine ?
 

Craiglxviii

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 6, 2015
Messages
17,781
Reaction score
7,426
Location
Cambs UK
Your Mercedes
970 Panamera Turbo; W221 S500L AMG Line, C215 CL500, W251 R350L AMG Line, plus several more now gone
When I bought the ML back in 2012 the salesman was adamant it had the Chrysler 2.7 diesel engine, just wondering was it developed jointly or is it a Mercedes engine ?
OM612, developed by MB and sold into the DaimlerChrysler Group.
 

51315

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 5, 2016
Messages
140
Reaction score
40
Location
Canterbury
Your Mercedes
W247 AMG B200 (2020), A160 (2009) CLK270 (2005) SL230 Pagoda (1964, long gone)
Renault engines in the A and B class I believe. Smart forfour was a Mazda. New X class is a nissan
I've read somewhere on this very forum that that is not correct for the A Class W169 at least.
 

d215yq

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2008
Messages
2,664
Reaction score
702
Age
39
Location
Valencia, Spain
Your Mercedes
1987 W124 300D 280k miles
Theres a lot of ssangyong mussos here badged "powered by mercedes". I heard somewhere they use om603 based engines and gearboxes from the w124 era. Not sure if its true but if so probably explains why theyre very popular amongst farmers (cheap utilitatian and reliable).
 

d:class automotive are specialists in automotive interiors and upholstery. From Mercedes and modern cars to custom and classics. Tel: 01483 722923 Email:info@dclass.co.ukWeb:www.dclass.co.uk
Top Bottom