ML 270 won't start

[kebo57]

Hi left work this evening and motor won't start
New battery last week Varter 100Amp (battery is charged)
When I turn ignition key nothing happening cant seem to here any clicking
swapped starter relay no change
Could I start buy shorting down at the starter our is it to clever for this
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Kevin
PS getting a lift home so I won't catch this thread back up till later

 

[JEZ.S320L]

Hi left work this evening and motor won't start
New battery last week Varter 100Amp (battery is charged)
When I turn ignition key nothing happening cant seem to here any clicking
swapped starter relay no change
Could I start buy shorting down at the starter our is it to clever for this
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Kevin
PS getting a lift home so I won't catch this thread back up till later

Just a thought - the fact that you changed the battery may have resulted in the ignition sysytem needing reprogramming to read your key fob. It sounds as if the anti-theft immobilisation gizmo has kicked in.

 

[television]

Is this an extension of the key problem that happened earlier


See what I have on this

 

[kebo57]

Is this an extension of the key problem that happened earlier


See what I have on this

I'm back key problem was a long time ago, not had any trouble with the key since then, I have two keys & had them both with me both do everything but turn engine over. I had a problem at dinner when I was parked pointing down on a slope auto in park weight of motor on the auto box & it wouldn't turn over so I rolled a few mtrs onto the flat so there wasn't any load on the auto box it turned over & started (that could be just a coincidence) also been having a delay with the heater fan it takes a couple of Min's to start blowing then runs on after the ignition is turned off the its OK thought the new battery would have sorted it out
Don't know much about the anti-theft immobilization Cozmo
I tried a live feed to the solenoid but only got clicking around the clove box area going can't really see what I was doing. going to take a jack, tools, jump leads, maybe remove the starter tomorrow & test it

Thanks for the help so far Kevin

PS I'm of to bed now back at 0600

 

[television]

I'm back key problem was a long time ago, not had any trouble with the key since then, I have two keys & had them both with me both do everything but turn engine over. I had a problem at dinner when I was parked pointing down on a slope auto in park weight of motor on the auto box & it wouldn't turn over so I rolled a few mtrs onto the flat so there wasn't any load on the auto box it turned over & started (that could be just a coincidence) also been having a delay with the heater fan it takes a couple of Min's to start blowing then runs on after the ignition is turned off the its OK thought the new battery would have sorted it out
Don't know much about the anti-theft immobilization Cozmo
I tried a live feed to the solenoid but only got clicking around the clove box area going can't really see what I was doing. going to take a jack, tools, jump leads, maybe remove the starter tomorrow & test it

Thanks for the help so far Kevin

PS I'm of to bed now back at 0600

I have made a note to check in the morning, too tired now after 125 post and 43 Emails today

 

[kebo57]

I have made a note to check in the morning, too tired now after 125 post and 43 Emails today

OK Malc & thanks

Kevin

 

[psmart]

The ML reports ERROR in the display if there is something wrong with the ECU/Authorisation to drive. Ive noticed over time here that a lot of people have crank sensor or cdi rail faults which have left the engine dead. When were the kyfob batteries replaced, have you tried a different key? It could well be time to get fault codes read unless Malcolm has got something on his system.

 

[kebo57]

Thanks Phil for this

The ML reports ERROR in the display if there is something wrong with the ECU/Authorisation to drive.
There isn't any warning lights showing on the dash

Ive noticed over time here that a lot of people have crank sensor
I have a crank sensor with me but if I remember correctly with this disconnected there is cranking but no starting

or cdi rail faults which have left the engine dead. Don't know about this one I'll try disconnection & reconnect

When were the key fob batteries replaced, have you tried a different key?
I have two key with me no joy don't know the battery procedure

It could well be time to get fault codes read unless Malcolm has got something on his system.

Alarm immobilizer seems OK tried opening door without actually opening a door left it for a couple of mins and it locked it self back up

Kevin

 

[Cole@MBS]

This sounds like the engine earth strap broken, from under the car next to the steering U/J, pig to find and get to but common fault, quick way to test is a jump lead from battery neg to engine block!

 

[kebo57]

Thanks for this

This sounds like the engine earth strap broken, from under the car next to the steering U/J, pig to find and get to but common fault, quick way to test is a jump lead from battery neg to engine block!

I'm going out at 0900 break try the above a few other things

Kevin

 

[television]

This sounds like the engine earth strap broken, from under the car next to the steering U/J, pig to find and get to but common fault, quick way to test is a jump lead from battery neg to engine block!

Funny that we have had many faults like this and suspect engine earth straps.

I will wait till Kevin post back

 

[psmart]

Alarm immobilizer seems OK tried opening door without actually opening a door left it for a couple of mins and it locked it self back up

I wasnt exact in description, the 'Start Error' appears in the mileometer display with no other warning lights coming on. You dont get any clicks or anything, whole car appears normal, but engine (including starter) completely dead with just the message.

Hopefully the earth strap is the fault, not the ECU or MBSS.

 

[kebo57]

Funny that we have had many faults like this and suspect engine earth straps.

I will wait till Kevin post back

Hi YES S-A-M / U-N-I-T & Malc where right made an earth with my jump leads and its turning over but very slowly,
hopefull slow not enough to start it, otherwise Iv'e messed something up

Could be a poor earth so I'm going to find the earth (from under the car next to the steering U/J,) I remember an earth at the off side engine mount
Going to make that earth good at dinner
I will post back at 1400 hrs

Thanks so for Kevin

PS Iv'e had that 'Start Error' a along time ago but not this time thanks Phil

 

[Cole@MBS]

Hi YES S-A-M / U-N-I-T & Malc where right made an earth with my jump leads and its turning over but very slowly,
hopefull slow not enough to start it, otherwise Iv'e messed something up

Could be a poor earth so I'm going to find the earth (from under the car next to the steering U/J,) I remember an earth at the off side engine mout
Going to make that earth good at dinner
I will post back at 1400 hrs

Thanks so far Kevin

PS Iv'e had that 'Start Error' a along time ago but not this time thanks Phil

Thats the one, o/s engine mount!

 

[kebo57]

This sounds like the engine earth strap broken, from under the car next to the steering U/J, pig to find and get to but common fault, quick way to test is a jump lead from battery neg to engine block!

Hi and thanks to every one involved it was exactally as stated above
I made that earth strap good when I did the engine mount so I didnt think it was that but I had the engine running with jump leads as an earth and could see sparking when it went dark the strap had sheared clean off

Thanks Kevin