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I bought a Sealey TP69 6.5L quite some time ago for around £40 .

Quite convenient as oil capacity is 6.5L !

I would not hesitate to buy a similar cheaper 9L on egay .
 
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I bought a Sealey TP69 6.5L quite some time ago for around £40 .

Quite convenient as oil capacity is 6.5L !

I would not hesitate to buy a similar cheaper 9L on egay .
I've bought cheap before and regretted it.
 

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I also have a Sealey 6.5 litre one. Great bit of kit and very handy and useful.

Fwiw I use it for general extraction but, if you can, for an engine oil change I would advise, doing it via the drain plug. When the extractors are used (and even when they have finished sucking and you move the tube around to get everything you can), the new engine oil goes dirty very quickly (within the week). When I change my oil via the sump plug, it stays clean for thousands of miles.
 

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I also have a Sealey 6.5 litre one. Great bit of kit and very handy and useful.

Fwiw I use it for general extraction but, if you can, for an engine oil change I would advise, doing it via the drain plug. When the extractors are used (and even when they have finished sucking and you move the tube around to get everything you can), the new engine oil goes dirty very quickly (within the week). When I change my oil via the sump plug, it stays clean for thousands of miles.

I had to remove the sump pan from my Smart Roadster and as it has no drain plug I used the Pela before removal. There was next to nothing left in there when it was removed. Not sure why you'd need to move the tube around if it was at the lowest point when sucking .... the oil in a diseasal will be dirty by the time you've driven around the block. ;)
 
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I had to remove the sump pan from my Smart Roadster and as it has no drain plug I used the Pela before removal. There was next to nothing left in there when it was removed. Not sure why you'd need to move the tube around if it was at the lowest point when sucking .... the oil in a diseasal will be dirty by the time you've driven around the block. ;)
After the B service mine was the same colour again after a few days. It now looks like it was never done and that was three weeks ago. Maybe this is why some will do a change six months into a service?

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I had to remove the sump pan from my Smart Roadster and as it has no drain plug I used the Pela before removal. There was next to nothing left in there when it was removed. Not sure why you'd need to move the tube around if it was at the lowest point when sucking .... the oil in a diseasal will be dirty by the time you've driven around the block. ;)

I fully appreciate that. What I meant was when its sucked it all out, and then you just wiggle the tube whilst making sure its got nothing left to suck out.

On the C70 had 2 oil changes done like this and the oil colour was dirty within the week each time whereas doing the sump plug style keeps my oil clean beyond 6,000 miles in. This is just my experience with the extraction pump compared to the sump plug.

Also many dealerships now also use pump extraction rather than the sump plug as I found out whilst reviewing dash cam footage when I left an e350 and astra gtc lease cars at the dealers for a service.
 
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I fully appreciate that. What I meant was when its sucked it all out, and then you just wiggle the tube whilst making sure its got nothing left to suck out.

On the C70 had 2 oil changes done like this and the oil colour was dirty within the week each time whereas doing the sump plug style keeps my oil clean beyond 6,000 miles in. This is just my experience with the extraction pump compared to the sump plug.

Also many dealerships now also use pump extraction rather than the sump plug as I found out whilst reviewing dash cam footage when I left an e350 and astra gtc lease cars at the dealers for a service.
I'm wondering how much it matters if there is a tiny bit of oil left, compared to the extra hassle for me to jack the car, remove the sump plug and drain, in the past I always managed to make a mess.
 

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It's so quick & easy with a pump you can do extra changes if you want peace of mind.
I have a Lidle's own. Cost about £12 . Works fine, as It's only used 2 or 3 times a year, it should last me out. You have to use an empty oil container though. I use my old Halfords plastic oil catching jerry can I used when I had to grovel on the ground and get oil up my sleeve. I initially bought a hand pump system that created low pressure in the receiving container. It didn't hold enough oil for me and was a pain to have to empty half way through. Also when I got the oil hot enough to flow freely the plastic container collapsed under pressure.
 

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I've done 3 oil changes using a cheap silverline 4L from Amazon, 25 euros or something like that. Seems to do the job and not much effort. There's always some oil left by capacity on flat, I once parked facing downhill a bit (filler at front of engine) and got an extra 0,5L out. I doubt it matters about getting it all out anyway.

When thinking of capacity depends on engine. If you're engine is 6L or below get a 6L, if like mine it is 7L get a 4L as you need to do twice anyway and the 4L is cheaper and takes up less space!
 
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I've done 3 oil changes using a cheap silverline 4L from Amazon, 25 euros or something like that. Seems to do the job and not much effort. There's always some oil left by capacity on flat, I once parked facing downhill a bit (filler at front of engine) and got an extra 0,5L out. I doubt it matters about getting it all out anyway.

When thinking of capacity depends on engine. If you're engine is 6L or below get a 6L, if like mine it is 7L get a 4L as you need to do twice anyway and the 4L is cheaper and takes up less space!
Thanks both, I picked up the Sealey 5.5 like the one that Craiglxviii mentioned. This is really for doing the second car, the 5.5 version will be big enough. I might do my car at some point, but for at least the net two services they will be done my an indie.
 

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I'm wondering how much it matters if there is a tiny bit of oil left, compared to the extra hassle for me to jack the car, remove the sump plug and drain, in the past I always managed to make a mess.

None, if you do I regularly.
 

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It's so quick & easy with a pump you can do extra changes if you want peace of mind.
I have a Lidle's own. Cost about £12 . Works fine, as It's only used 2 or 3 times a year, it should last me out. You have to use an empty oil container though. I use my old Halfords plastic oil catching jerry can I used when I had to grovel on the ground and get oil up my sleeve. I initially bought a hand pump system that created low pressure in the receiving container. It didn't hold enough oil for me and was a pain to have to empty half way through. Also when I got the oil hot enough to flow freely the plastic container collapsed under pressure.
I've a Pela, but I've also recently bought the £12 Lidl oil pump that looks almost the same as the Machine Mart version.
 

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On the C70 had 2 oil changes done like this and the oil colour was dirty within the week each time whereas doing the sump plug style keeps my oil clean beyond 6,000 miles in. This is just my experience with the extraction pump compared to the sump plug.

Also many dealerships now also use pump extraction rather than the sump plug as I found out whilst reviewing dash cam footage when I left an e350 and astra gtc lease cars at the dealers for a service.

I find it difficult to accept this statement that engine oil will stay 'clean' (by 'clean' I presume the OP means visually translucent, not dark) for 6,000 miles of average motoring.

The OP's observation that many dealerships use the pumped extraction method suggests that they are convinced of its effectiveness. After all, they wouldn't deliberately lay themselves open to claims if this method didn't do the job.

As it happens, this has been the standard method of oil changing in lube shops throughout Uncle Sam's domain for decades.
 
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If you're really bothered about getting the last bit of dirty oil out drain till empty, fill with 1-2 litres fresh oil and pump till empty again.
I remember in the 90's oil flushes were the big thing, even some were using diesel to flush before pulling the drain plug.
 

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I remember in the 90's oil flushes were the big thing, even some were using diesel to flush before pulling the drain plug.
I'd never flush with anything other than engine oil. If you don't think all the oil is extracted you wouldn't want flushing oil/diesel left in there...
 

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I find it difficult to accept this statement that engine oil will stay 'clean' (by 'clean' I presume the OP means visually translucent, not dark) for 6,000 miles of average motoring.

The OP's observation that many dealerships use the pumped extraction method suggests that they are convinced of its effectiveness. After all, they wouldn't deliberately lay themselves open to claims if this method didn't do the job.

As it happens, this has been the standard method of oil changing in lube shops throughout Uncle Sam's domain for decades.

Me too and I'm assuming this is for a petrol engine. You have to look at the reasons oil does go dark and in this instance is it purely down to mixing with already dark oil?

From what I have read you actually want your oil to darken as it is mainly from the detergents and that it is keeping those contaminants in suspension that this occurs.
 

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Me too and I'm assuming this is for a petrol engine. You have to look at the reasons oil does go dark and in this instance is it purely down to mixing with already dark oil?

From what I have read you actually want your oil to darken as it is mainly from the detergents and that it is keeping those contaminants in suspension that this occurs.
With petrol engines there are fewer carbon contaminants released into the sump compared to a diesel.
It's not unusual for petrol engines to run 6000 miles before the oil darkens.
On a diesel the oil blackens up almost immediately.
 

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