1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Old/Used Oil.

Discussion in 'Motoring Related Discussion' started by Jimbo1959, May 23, 2019.

  1. Jimbo1959

    Jimbo1959 Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,038
    Likes Received:
    768
    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2018
    Location:
    Ayrshire
    Your Mercedes:
    E350 CDi Blue Efficiency Sport Coupe, fast, smooth, comfortable, what more does one need?
    This post is very loosely motoring related. :rolleyes:
    After Creosoting my garage a couple of years ago, I found out that the formula for Creosote has changed and it has been renamed Creosote substitute. o_O
    Basically, in comparison to the original tar based product, the modern stuff is carp. It didn't even last a year.
    My question/query is, would it be wise to make up say, a 50 : 50 mix of old engine oil to the new substitute, in the hope that it would act more like the original and seep into the wood and protect it a little (a lot) better than the modern stuff?
    I imagine the old oil would also kill off any fungi/mould?
    I'm very tempted to try it but, a little worried that the oil, while initially giving better protection, might, damage the wood and effectively destroy the garage.
    Any help/suggestions from the chemical knowledgeable vantage point/inclined, would be appreciated. Thanks! ;)
     
    Jim2 likes this.
  2. Tony Dyson

    Tony Dyson Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,043
    Likes Received:
    376
    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2018
    Location:
    God's Country
    Your Mercedes:
    2014 C 220 CDI W204 OM 651
    My Father used old engine oil to paint an old garden shed, it worked well but remained wet, smelly and sticky for many Years, especially through a hot summer.
     
    Frontstep likes this.
  3. Jim2

    Jim2 Senior Member

    Messages:
    754
    Likes Received:
    433
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    2010 Eclass w212 2.1 CDI
    No, I would not advise it anyway....used engine oil should be disposed of only at recycling centers. Once you brush it on ( even mixed with creosote or other wood preservative ) it will still behave like engine oil, and everything that touches off it will be stained by it. And I think that the inflammability would be increased considerably too. Better to use the "modern" creosote, but maybe give it a few coat's? I remember using block's of wood in the workshop..3'x9"x6" "slab's" that were used for everything..putting under jacked up cars and trucks, wheel chock's etc. and after years of use in the workshop, having been literally soaked in waste oil, they never really dried out, and whenever you came into contact with them, you would always be stained.
     
    Wighty likes this.
  4. Blobcat

    Blobcat Moderator

    Messages:
    15,470
    Likes Received:
    3,848
    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2006
    Location:
    Near Grange Moor (not Wakefield...)
    Your Mercedes:
    R171 SLK280 3.0, Land Rover 110 County SW
    You can still get real creosote for farm use.:D

    Water based wood treatment is useless
     
    Jimbo1959 and Jim2 like this.
  5. umblecumbuz

    umblecumbuz Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    1,060
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2010
    Location:
    Wales and Gozo
    Your Mercedes:
    S204 and CLC 204 cdi, other non-Merc machines
    Is 'original' Creasote flammable?
     
    Jim2 likes this.
  6. Chrishazle

    Chrishazle Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,613
    Likes Received:
    444
    Joined:
    May 25, 2009
    Location:
    Nr Ashford, Kent
    Your Mercedes:
    S204 2008 C220CDI Elegance Estate Auto, 1993 Porsche 968 Tiptronic cabriolet
    Since the demise of creosote I've applied water based preservatives 3 different ways, and IMHO it's the method of application as much as the product that makes a difference to longevity. Worst is brush, shortest life plus wastage as it runs down the wood onto the ground. Better is the little electric HVLP sprayer , but best of all is using the paraffin gun on my air compressor, set at 50-60psi depending on how think the jollop is. It forces the jollop into the wood, very little runs down the wood onto the ground, and the finish lasts well - more than the maybe 5 years it says on the tin! I have a long HP hose on the outlet side of my compressor, with a quick connect for whichever tool I need to use, makes things lots easier!
     
    Jim2 and LostKiwi like this.
  7. Tony Dyson

    Tony Dyson Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,043
    Likes Received:
    376
    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2018
    Location:
    God's Country
    Your Mercedes:
    2014 C 220 CDI W204 OM 651
    Wicks Creocote is an oil based Creosote replacement I've used in the past 3/4 Years and it is still performing well with no loss of colour.
     
    Jimbo1959 and Jim2 like this.
  8. DREAMER NO2

    DREAMER NO2 Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,701
    Likes Received:
    353
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2013
    Location:
    Kidderminster in Worcestershire
    Your Mercedes:
    W124 2.6E M103 1989
    I did this 50/50 mix of fence paint and old merc oil .This worked out well and the next time i removed the fence section to coat it i did it all in 50/50 mix.Both sides and it wont need painting again for some time to come .Its better than any fence or wood preservative carp .
     
    Jim2 likes this.
  9. vtaylor78

    vtaylor78 Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,364
    Likes Received:
    542
    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Location:
    Northamptonshire.
    Your Mercedes:
    E350 CDI Coupe W207 2010 \ SLK 250 R172 2011.
    Is it Fully Synthetic, Jimbo :D
     
    Jimbo1959 and Jim2 like this.
  10. thebiglad

    thebiglad Senior Member

    Messages:
    402
    Likes Received:
    224
    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Location:
    Central France
    Your Mercedes:
    2005 CLK 270 cdi
    Which is best 5w-30 or 10w-40 ?
     
    Flyinspanner, vtaylor78 and Jim2 like this.
  11. Jim2

    Jim2 Senior Member

    Messages:
    754
    Likes Received:
    433
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Your Mercedes:
    2010 Eclass w212 2.1 CDI
    :cool::D:D:D:D
     
  12. Frontstep

    Frontstep Senior Member

    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    738
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Your Mercedes:
    T210 320cdi
    Fence panels are horrible things we have inherited some which I have replaced till our huge Berlin wall project is done.

    The contractors for the other work on fronstep towers looked at me with pound signs in their eyes when i said I wanted the fence replacing with walls whilst access was good.

    "We build four bedroomed houses with less bricks"

    I have come to the conclusion that I need to get a bigger spending hat on.
     
    Jim2 likes this.
  13. OP
    Jimbo1959

    Jimbo1959 Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,038
    Likes Received:
    768
    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2018
    Location:
    Ayrshire
    Your Mercedes:
    E350 CDi Blue Efficiency Sport Coupe, fast, smooth, comfortable, what more does one need?
    Of course! I wouldn’t use anything else in any of the family cars.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    Jim2 and vtaylor78 like this.
  14. Rappey69

    Rappey69 Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,593
    Likes Received:
    179
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Location:
    hants
    Your Mercedes:
    c220 w204 amg sport
    I tried engine oil on our fence panels.. It didn't last anywhere near as long as ronsil fence coatings !
    Oil does not damage wood (unless its teak oil which devastates teak)
    As others have stated, spray it if possible as so much quicker and better penetration.
    Sadolin superdeck is absolutely amazing on wood if you want a colour, the rougher the wood the longer it lasts. Water based but in all my years ive not come across anything that lasts as long.
     
    Jimbo1959 likes this.
  15. ajlsl600

    ajlsl600 Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,998
    Likes Received:
    1,078
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2013
    Location:
    france
    Your Mercedes:
    clk3202001,sl6002003 with everything,A class 170cdi auto
    for 8 yrs i used stuff here in france thats 40 euro for 5/6 lit like a v/thin creosote, i did it every yr tho on tin it says 4/5 yr. now for the last 4 yr i mix 50/50 engine oil ex clk /a class and v doz with white spirit and that works great on all gates /double garage and lovelly,s studio . 5 lt white spirit is 11 euro. after a week or so there is almost no oilyness or mark on yr hands after rubbing wood . i am very happy with it. on garden tables i use a cheap new engine oil and white spirit .i treat the seating with the proper stuff ,keep arxxx clean ! so i do everything every yr for about 40 euro instead of at least 120..AND i get rid of my old eng oil....
     
    Jim2, spenttherent and Jimbo1959 like this.
  16. ernieh

    ernieh Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,423
    Likes Received:
    65
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Location:
    Scotland, East
    Your Mercedes:
    205 / 67 / C220 d
    Yes, but the problem with it is that it contains phonols and other nasties which are carcinogens.

    Ernie
     
    Jim2 likes this.
  17. Frontstep

    Frontstep Senior Member

    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    738
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Your Mercedes:
    T210 320cdi
    Phenols ?
     
    ernieh likes this.
  18. ernieh

    ernieh Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,423
    Likes Received:
    65
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Location:
    Scotland, East
    Your Mercedes:
    205 / 67 / C220 d
    Yes, sorry for the typo...and I should know having worked in a chemical lab for 43 years!

    Ernie
     
    Jim2 likes this.
  19. bob 6600

    bob 6600 Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,243
    Likes Received:
    260
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2010
    Your Mercedes:
    Audi S8 V10, S210 E320 CDI (R.I.P.)
    Jim2 likes this.
  20. Flyinspanner

    Flyinspanner Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,997
    Likes Received:
    499
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2010
    Location:
    Ruislip
    Your Mercedes:
    CL500 -W215, A140-W168
    Decking oil? Quite good price from toolstation - Barrettine 5L £22.

    Seems to spread well, water beads on the surface, I’m thinking of doing the summerhouse to match. :)
     
    Jim2 likes this.

Share This Page