R170 Remote Unlocking issues

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Good morning,

As a newcomer to this forum and not an experienced computer user, I hope that this message reaches its proper destination. Anyway, here goes... Her indoors' beloved chariot; a near mint 1998 SLK 230, has recently suffered from an intermittent inability to unlock either door or boot lid by means of the remote fob(s). This was not a huge problem as further presses usually eventually met with success. However, a few days ago the system refused point blank to unlock anything. Access to the driver's door was still available by using the key, so the car could be driven when needed. The boot however remained locked as the key would not turn in the lock at all. Probably seized up after years of non-use. I have researched this quite well-known area of problem in this vehicle and summarise my findings as follows:

Checked PSE pump for water damage. None evident. Pump looks shiny and new despite its 22 years of use.
Checked connections to PSE, no evident problems. WD40'd both plugs/sockets and refitted.

Tested system. Bingo! Functions perfectly. Locks and unlocks doors, boot lid, fuel filler flap as designed. Put everything back into the boot. Went to bed.

Next morning went to open the car. Indicator lights flashed as they should but nothing unlocked. Listened out for PSE pump running but heard nothing. Opened driver's door with key. Tried fob to lock it. Worked fine and I could hear the PSE pump running. Tried again to unlock (single and double clicks tried and console switch) but nothing. I am now in a bit of a bind. The boot lid is locked and if you recall I mentioned that the key would not turn in the lock. So my only access to the PSE pump is by opening the roof part-way then stopping it. Something I approached with some trepidation given the complexity of the thing. Managed this OK and emptied the boot again. Retrieved PSE pump and stripped it down. Tested contacts on the PCB as much as I could. Cleaned the relay contacts. Nothing adverse found. Rebuilt it and re-installed it. No change. Meanwhile took out boot lock assembly to see if I could free up the lock. Left it overnight soaking in WD40. No joy here either. Put everything back as didn't like leaving the roof half up for too long. So, thoroughly p****d off with all of this not to mention her indoors indicating in no uncertain terms that if I caused even the slightest scratch or dent then what remains of my manhood would be in extreme danger, I call upon the combined wisdom of all of you fellow R170 owners to assist if you can. Any comments are welcome. I am puzzled by the fact that the system worked perfectly well one minute then only locks the car the next. The PSE arrangement is commonly seen as the culprit but am I missing something? (Fuse 9 & interior light are fine, by the way)
 

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Hello and welcome

Are the keys working? (Do you have 2 to try?)
Keep lubricating the boot lock and it should free up to work. WD40 isn’t the best, I use silicone lubricant and work both locks regularly
 

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Hi I may be on a totally wrong track, but is the fluid in the pump at the correct level? Just a thought.
 

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Hi I may be on a totally wrong track, but is the fluid in the pump at the correct level? Just a thought.
PSE pump has no fluid - it's an air pump.
Only the roof pump has fluid.
 

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PSE pump has no fluid - it's an air pump.
Only the roof pump has fluid.

Yes of course. I actually knew that. Old age setting in. 64 this month lol. Air leak then?
 

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good morning I had exactly the same issue .A very good former mercedes tech traced it to the aftermarket immobilser /alarm system which were sometimes fitted by dealers from new .This was removed and bypassed no problem since
 

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I take it that you have checked the obvious things like changing the batteries in the key fob and checking the car batteries voltage? Low battery voltage on our 230 causes the exact same symptoms you describe, including locking but not unlocking. As you have found out it's very important on these cars to keep the boot lock well lubricated so you can get in when all else fails. Ordinary WD40 won't work. Report back because solving these problems does help other owners.
 
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Good morning all,
Very many thanks for your responses to my problem. Apologies for the delay in getting back to you but my access to things internet is only occasional. To date I have re-checked all the connections to the PSE and through the printed circuit board as far as I could. Nothing adverse found. Both key fobs give the same result and both show batteries in good state. Main car battery was charged recently but owing to low use of vehicle, this is being re-charged as we speak. The comment above from Lotus53 is an interesting one. The vehicle in question does appear to have a retro-fitted alarm (there is a small black dongle-like device on one of the keyrings. To my knowledge this is something to do with the alarm system but has never been used. There is what appears to be a socket for this in the RHS of the driver's footwell by the door?). I have yet to fully investigate this aspect but from other threads on alarms, the whereabouts of this and associated modules can be variable... I'll let you know how I get on. Meanwhile, the bootlock continues to resist my efforts to free it up. Anyone have any advice on how to dismantle this??
 
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Take a bow Peterws1957... You have the nail upon the head hit. Despite the car battery being only about two years old; despite charging it within the last two weeks; despite running the engine for 20minutes every two days; the fault definitely lies with dropped battery voltage. As I said in my initial post, the problem had been intermittent for some while without any particular pattern being evident. When it failed to unlock again recently, my first action was to dig out the PSE and clean the connection terminals. Lo and behold, all was well again. Half an hour later the problem had returned. To cut a long story short, the battery showed no outward sign of voltage drop (started car easily and vigorously and all other components worked fine) but a very fine line must exist between an acceptable and unacceptable level where unlocking the vehicle is concerned. Why it only affects unlocking and not locking is something of a mystery. I suspect that the car has not been run frequently or for long enough over the past couple of years or so hence not 'exercising' the battery sufficiently. The lockdown merely exacerbated the situation.

Charging the battery again (it took less than an hour to reach full charge) and all was well. Took the car for a 30 mile round trip and for the last couple of days all continues to be well. So the PSE pump, despite its general vulnerability to problem (due to water ingress - mainly) is in good fettle (and even better with all its connections cleaned)

My sincere thanks and appreciation to you; Peterws1957 in particular and to all other MB owners who assisted. You are a great help to flounderers like myself and I cannot praise you all highly enough.
 


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