S213 E class estate buying advice

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I am due to test drive a s213, tomorrow hopefully, and pending any booboos will be aiming to get it home. Its a 3yr old 55k miles on the clock but only 2 services done (an a and b service). Owner will put it through another A service - i think that was due at 45k miles as these cars tend to be serviced at 15k miles as opposed to the VAG groups 18k miles.

I presume the engine transmission oil must be due as well on this one - Audi's get it done every 40k miles.

Before test driving i'll pay particular attention to discs checking for lips and width of the break pads, chips on windscreens,sunroofs, tyre tread, side wall damage etc, look for any dings, scratches everywhere including inside, checking all the buttons/touch screen options work, making sure the widths between the panels are uniform, not sure how i'll check for any hairline cracks in alloys but i will try to spend good amount of time in good light just looking at them.

For the actual driving test, I'll be listening out for any unusual knocking noises or drones, checking if car pulls in one direction more than other, some harsh braking, some quick runs on the motorway probably both in auto and manual mode trying to keep the car in high revs for sometime. Not sure how much time the dealer will allow me with the car, presumably he wont just let me take the car on my own for half an hour drive.

Anyways, if there's something i've missed out please feel free to point and if there's anything in particular i need to know about s213/w213s then please let me know.

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Very nice car, worth a check to see if it will change into 9th at legal UK motorway speeds.

Also, not sure how good your deal is, but bear in mind you could have a brand new one for £30k - useful to know for negotiations
 

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I am due to test drive a s213, tomorrow hopefully, and pending any booboos will be aiming to get it home. Its a 3yr old 55k miles on the clock but only 2 services done (an a and b service). Owner will put it through another A service - i think that was due at 45k miles as these cars tend to be serviced at 15k miles as opposed to the VAG groups 18k miles.

You can check what needs doing here, just put the vehicle details in:

https://www.mymercedesservice.co.uk/#/your-vehicle

I presume the engine transmission oil must be due as well on this one - Audi's get it done every 40k miles.

I think it is at 75k but i may be a bit high

 

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Also, not sure how good your deal is, but bear in mind you could have a brand new one for £30k - useful to know for negotiations

And there is a facelift just been released
 

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10000 miles over recommended oil change intervals to me indicates a car that has not been looked after, but then again i change my oil every 5000 miles.

Would this missed service effect cars ability to be warrantied?
 
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10000 miles over recommended oil change intervals to me indicates a car that has not been looked after, but then again i change my oil every 5000 miles.

Would this missed service effect cars ability to be warrantied?

It will be on standard yearly services, done under 20k a year with fully synthetic oil in so there shouldn't be a problem
 

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It will be on standard yearly services, done under 20k a year with fully synthetic oil in so there shouldn't be a problem
Maybe you are right, but if i was shelling out 20 odd grand on a high mileage car (for age) it would need to have been well maintained. There will be plenty of others that will have a perfect service history for approx the same price out there.

The OP also mentions that the car is from a dealer so you can be assured that the dealer would have bought the car at low trade price due to this factor.
 
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Maybe you are right, but if i was shelling out 20 odd grand on a high mileage car (for age) it would need to have been well maintained. There will be plenty of others that will have a perfect service history for approx the same price out there.

It will be under £20k, provided the correct service schedule has been followed I very much doubt there will be a problem, modern oils are designed to be used for longer.

Comparable car

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...=2017&year-from=2017&body-type=Estate&page=13

A mileage that high suggests a lot of motorway mileage so little stress on the engine

The OP also mentions that the car is from a dealer so you can be assured that the dealer would have bought the car at low trade price due to this factor.

The OP says "The Owner", no mention of a dealer. If it is from a dealer then it will have a full years warranty so there is peace of mind there
 

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Champak said:

"Not sure how much time the dealer will allow me with the car, presumably he wont just let me take the car on my own for half an hour drive."

Each to there own, sure you are probably correct JBell re: modern engine oils but just making OP aware. Get a good price from dealer is my message if you are buying it.
 

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Champak said:

"Not sure how much time the dealer will allow me with the car, presumably he wont just let me take the car on my own for half an hour drive."

My bad, I read the second line "Owner will put it through another A service"

Get a good price from dealer is my message if you are buying it.

They represent excellent value particularly if they are pre the Road Tax top up
 

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I don't think I would buy a car that had overshot a service by 10K miles... Modern oils or not.
 

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I don't think I would buy a car that had overshot a service by 10K miles... Modern oils or not.

It is on "Mercedes Service ASSYST" Fixed Service intervals so 15k or 1 year whichever happens first so the OP needs to check it has been done on time and correctly. The dealer should provide printouts of the servicing carried out so far.

It is overdue for a service
 
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Hello and welcome

Very nice car, worth a check to see if it will change into 9th at legal UK motorway speeds.

Also, not sure how good your deal is, but bear in mind you could have a brand new one for £30k - useful to know for negotiations
Deal isn't that great to be honest but I'm really struggling to find a car that's on £30 road tax and has the driver assistance package which is a must for me.. Usually I pick up my car's at BCA auctions and aim to save £3-£4k off the forecourt price. This car I let go at the auction, it went close to £22k... I'm hoping to do a deal at £23.5k but dealer (not MB, but independent)... Dealer is going to give it a mot and a service and take care of all the blemishes etc...

It's actually £2k more than I think the cars worth but I don't see many car with all the bells and whistles below £24k mark regardless of the mileage so am feeling a bit stuck...

If the car doesn't engage 9th at 70mph, is that an issue?

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And there is a facelift just been released
Yes, I like that grill... Unfortunately I can't put the buy off until they start to deliver the facelift so wont be able to take advantage of lower prices whenever that happens... Also worried about oncoming recession which might slow down sales of new cars and help firm up the prices of used cars

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10000 miles over recommended oil change intervals to me indicates a car that has not been looked after, but then again i change my oil every 5000 miles.

Would this missed service effect cars ability to be warrantied?
Would you recommend getting warranty for the car... With audi I was in two minds and then ended up saving in Audi pot instead of buying warranties.. worked out ok as I only needed to change one sensor over 75k miles of use - other than the regular wearables

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It will be on standard yearly services, done under 20k a year with fully synthetic oil in so there shouldn't be a problem
That's good to know, thanks

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Maybe you are right, but if i was shelling out 20 odd grand on a high mileage car (for age) it would need to have been well maintained. There will be plenty of others that will have a perfect service history for approx the same price out there.

The OP also mentions that the car is from a dealer so you can be assured that the dealer would have bought the car at low trade price due to this factor.
Dealer was my competitor at the auction (hopefully he's not reading this forum) but to be honest I was out of the race as soon as bids went above £20.5k as the savings became very meagre compared to forecourt prices.. to my surprise it kept climbing up and up.... Unfortunately very few others around with all the bells and whistles...

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It will be under £20k, provided the correct service schedule has been followed I very much doubt there will be a problem, modern oils are designed to be used for longer.

Comparable car

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...=2017&year-from=2017&body-type=Estate&page=13

A mileage that high suggests a lot of motorway mileage so little stress on the engine



The OP says "The Owner", no mention of a dealer. If it is from a dealer then it will have a full years warranty so there is peace of mind there
Sorry my bad.. it should be dealer in both the places, not owner...



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If the car doesn't engage 9th at 70mph, is that an issue?
It means it will have had the latest software update which from threads on the forum means reduced fuel economy :(
 


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