Should we have update done?

A.J.

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Well, what a surprise :rolleyes: I took the decision on my last change to switch to petrol and I am not going back to Diesel. They are all up to it aren't they :rolleyes:
 

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This is the guys behind it. I would want to do a lot more research before signing up. For example, it costs you nothing as long as you have followed the terms and conditions which could be a bit open ended.

https://mercedesclaimlawyers.com/
 

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To be successful it has to be:
1. Proven
2. Demonstrated owners have suffered a quantifiable financial loss.

This is a US style class action.
The figures talked about are frankly laughable as I doubt many would have been out of pocket by those amounts.
 

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Agree on the figures. Which are just a round number to get attention. But did you read the article which stated VW lost their first legal case which was brought by the same lawyers? To quote:
In April, around 90,000 motorists who bought or leased VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda diesel vehicles won the first round of their legal battle after the High Court ruled Volkswagen installed unlawful “defeat devices” in thousands of its diesel vehicles.
 

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Agree on the figures. Which are just a round number to get attention. But did you read the article which stated VW lost their first legal case which was brought by the same lawyers? To quote:
In April, around 90,000 motorists who bought or leased VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda diesel vehicles won the first round of their legal battle after the High Court ruled Volkswagen installed unlawful “defeat devices” in thousands of its diesel vehicles.
VW will fight it to the bitter end, that was just round one.
 

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VW will fight it to the bitter end, that was just round one.
Of course they will. Billions at stake. But does demonstrate there is a legal basis to the claim which the court for now agrees with and less so 'wishful thinking'.
 

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Of course they will. Billions at stake. But does demonstrate there is a legal basis to the claim which the court for now agrees with and less so 'wishful thinking'.
It's no longer wishful thinking when it's paid, not before.
MB and VW will fight this hard, delay proceedings and find ways to avoid paying. You can guarantee that.
 

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Yes you can indeed guarantee that they will fight until the end. I think that it has been proved they have done wrong. Germany fined Daimler almost $1 billion back end of last year for this reason. I do agree the amounts quoted for owners are wishful thinking.
 

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Problem as I see it not one of fancy litigation, but of getting makers to behave... Right now I get the distinct impression that we the customer are a resource to be, at least post purchase "milked" until they don't want to see us anymore, or when we head for the indies and, generally a better service. Correct me, presently dealers not really interested in cars over 3 yr old? Unless specialist models. That's about when trade in motors get sent straight to auction. No?
 

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This is the guys behind it. I would want to do a lot more research before signing up. For example, it costs you nothing as long as you have followed the terms and conditions which could be a bit open ended.

https://mercedesclaimlawyers.com/

I'd be very very careful about signing up to these "no win no fee" type contracts. People sign up to these thinking it's not going to cost anything- not true.
The last one a friend showed me, was a very lengthy contract. Legal fees were laid out on an hourly basis - up to £450 per hour. In addition they wanted a "success fee " of 20% of the damages awarded. The sting in the tail was near the bottom of the contract. If they lost the case, they would still require their "success fee", but the amount would be limited to the amount they would have charged for legal fees! This was not some back street ambulance chaser either, but a legal team recommended by a well known Insurer. When I got my mate to get them to confirm from the solicitors there would be no charges whatsoever, they were not prepared to put anything in writing but wanted to "discuss" over the phone.
No such thing as a free lunch, and you can imagine what sort of costs a US legal firm could run up. Into the millions I would guess.
 

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I'd be very very careful about signing up to these "no win no fee" type contracts. People sign up to these thinking it's not going to cost anything- not true.
The last one a friend showed me, was a very lengthy contract. Legal fees were laid out on an hourly basis - up to £450 per hour. In addition they wanted a "success fee " of 20% of the damages awarded. The sting in the tail was near the bottom of the contract. If they lost the case, they would still require their "success fee", but the amount would be limited to the amount they would have charged for legal fees! This was not some back street ambulance chaser either, but a legal team recommended by a well known Insurer. When I got my mate to get them to confirm from the solicitors there would be no charges whatsoever, they were not prepared to put anything in writing but wanted to "discuss" over the phone.
No such thing as a free lunch, and you can imagine what sort of costs a US legal firm could run up. Into the millions I would guess.
Those were my fears as well. Although I’m used to looking through legal contracts, I wouldn’t fancy my chances against them in court if ever it came to an argument. Their chat bot tells me I qualify as I bought my C207 new in 2010 but I think I’ll pass for the moment.
 


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