Spare parts on older cars

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Try Googling that.

Even if it was correct, German Civil Law Code is a civil (contract) law thing. It's not like you can call 999 when your local dealer shrugs and says they can't get a part.

The link posted above is a discussion document on REACH, which is about the use of hazardous substances!
It's still legally binding.
Even in this country you couldn't call 999 if it were an act of parliament that enforced it as it's not a criminal act.
 

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Exactly. So to the point of the original post, there's nothing the man in the street can do if a manufacturer says parts are unavailable.
 

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Exactly. So to the point of the original post, there's nothing the man in the street can do if a manufacturer says parts are unavailable.
Yes there is. Trading standards. Take them to court yourself.
 

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So that's a 'no' then.
It’s a “yes”. Don’t be obtuse. They’re a German based multinational subject to German law for product assembled in Germany. German law states that they must maintain 10 years parts availability. There’s a US Federal law saying the same thing for product assembled in the US if I could be bothered to go look for it. Others have posted links to the legislation applicable here.

The 3 British carmakers I’ve worked for have all operated a very strict ten-year policy, to the point of making all-time-buys of obsolete electronic components to ensure that the ten year rule could be proven to the DoT. One case involved the purchase of 24 million LEDs from Philips that had already gone out of production, to be kept in stock for headlamp units on a well known crossover SUV. That was by no means a rare occurrence.
 

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Try Googling that.

Even if it was correct, German Civil Law Code is a civil (contract) law thing. It's not like you can call 999 when your local dealer shrugs and says they can't get a part.

The link posted above is a discussion document on REACH, which is about the use of hazardous substances!
Of course it’s a contract law thing. It isn’t going to be criminal is it? You can’t call 999 and expect a police response when your plumber doesn’t adequately repair your boiler either.
 

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German law states that they must maintain 10 years parts availability. There’s a US Federal law saying the same thing for product assembled in the US if I could be bothered to go look for it.

You keep saying that, and I'm sure there are contractural agreements, codes of practice etc etc, but there's no actual law that says parts must be available for 10 years, either in the UK or the US (the US one is commonly written in US car forums, but it's not true).

It's like the "3 month mandatory warranty on used cars" that people state as if it's an absolute fact - when it's not.
 

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You keep saying that, and I'm sure there are contractural agreements, codes of practice etc etc, but there's no actual law that says parts must be available for 10 years, either in the UK or the US (the US one is commonly written in US car forums, but it's not true).

It's like the "3 month mandatory warranty on used cars" that people state as if it's an absolute fact - when it's not.
You're right. The Consumer Rights Act 2015 doesn't say 3 months - it says six months unless the seller can prove the fault was not present at the time of sale.
 
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Well I had a browse on eBay today and I am sure the number of M156 engines is growing. (varied price range to). So maybe there comes a point when second hand parts can maintain the running ones.

Just not many used specific engine parts. I do wonder if a good priced second hand running engine could be stripped down and more money made for specific parts.
 

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