tom1981
Active Member
I apologise. This is a lengthy one:
I bought a 2001 R170 from a dealer in Esssex almost a month ago and have run into problems, I have as yet been unable to sort. A few stone chips and beginning of rust spots on the arches but nowhere near as bad as others I had seen. It has only done 55k and has a black leather interior and the SE alloys. A new MOT, came up HPI clear and service log book added up. Got a decent price. I tested on the A road the garage was on and drove okay up and down in the straight line (I was poorly with spine surgery probs for two years so not driving and maybe not as vigilant as I used to be) I noticed recent respraying in the engine bay over the welding joins. I don't know cars and as the paperwork checked out and I was more clued into looking for rust and I didn't ask any questions.
Upon getting home I realised the steering wheel wasn't straightening up well and driving at urban speeds the car would drift left significantly if not corrected constantly. Over 45-50mph this improves although remains inaccurate and a little sensitive.
I had the tracking done by a local garage I have used since 2007. They were alarmed at the steering too, how inaccurate it was and pointed out the respraying as accident damage repair.
The trader is an hour away and so not trusting them to fix what they had already looked I informed the trader of what had been found and my problems and said I would attempt to have fixed on the 12 month optional warranty I bought which was valid for use at most garages.
I had the ball joints replaced and the bearings done and my mechanic was hopeful four wheel alignment would sort the cars wandering. The trader informed me they didn't have four wheel alignment. The warranty ended up not covering the work done. Worse still, the alignment done at a specialist place checked out. This suggested that the geometry of the car is intact following the repair meaning whatever small problem persists it's buried deep and mechanical.
The trader has been elusive at best following sending of the mechanics diagnostics and my desire to secure a reduction to reflect damage/repair costs. My mechanic doesn't want me excessively out of pocket (he's a good guy tbh) and is trying to get information on the nature of the accident from the trader. He is guessing damaged wheel hub. Oh and alignment boys switched left and right front wheels so I could check that it wasn't the tyres. The new ball joints, bearings, tracking has helped a little but it's still erratic and sometimes pulling away or pulling up to a junction or going over a speed bump the steering can get away from you. It still veers left. Sometimes the wheel can take some real effort. That said I drove it back from Brighton on m23 this weekend and whilst it's not as glued to the road as you would hope (I am also conscious of not trusting the cars steering) it is okay at speed on motorway. The trader says the last owner had it for five years and doesn't know about any accident. My mechanic says engine bay respraying looks v recent.
My initial 30 days are up on sat. I have spent £700 or so on restoring the leather, the vinyl paint, stereo and above repairs and preparing to waste time going to small claims court to get refund plus costs but now as then, I would rather repair and pursue him for the costs. I could even (whisper it) live without damages if I could sort the car out. The mechanic is hesitant to guess at price of repairs because they can't guess yet what might be bent. It's a small but significant problem but otherwise a good little car.
I was wondering whether you all had any thoughts and at a push knew anyone in London area good for a second opinion?
Cheers guys
I bought a 2001 R170 from a dealer in Esssex almost a month ago and have run into problems, I have as yet been unable to sort. A few stone chips and beginning of rust spots on the arches but nowhere near as bad as others I had seen. It has only done 55k and has a black leather interior and the SE alloys. A new MOT, came up HPI clear and service log book added up. Got a decent price. I tested on the A road the garage was on and drove okay up and down in the straight line (I was poorly with spine surgery probs for two years so not driving and maybe not as vigilant as I used to be) I noticed recent respraying in the engine bay over the welding joins. I don't know cars and as the paperwork checked out and I was more clued into looking for rust and I didn't ask any questions.
Upon getting home I realised the steering wheel wasn't straightening up well and driving at urban speeds the car would drift left significantly if not corrected constantly. Over 45-50mph this improves although remains inaccurate and a little sensitive.
I had the tracking done by a local garage I have used since 2007. They were alarmed at the steering too, how inaccurate it was and pointed out the respraying as accident damage repair.
The trader is an hour away and so not trusting them to fix what they had already looked I informed the trader of what had been found and my problems and said I would attempt to have fixed on the 12 month optional warranty I bought which was valid for use at most garages.
I had the ball joints replaced and the bearings done and my mechanic was hopeful four wheel alignment would sort the cars wandering. The trader informed me they didn't have four wheel alignment. The warranty ended up not covering the work done. Worse still, the alignment done at a specialist place checked out. This suggested that the geometry of the car is intact following the repair meaning whatever small problem persists it's buried deep and mechanical.
The trader has been elusive at best following sending of the mechanics diagnostics and my desire to secure a reduction to reflect damage/repair costs. My mechanic doesn't want me excessively out of pocket (he's a good guy tbh) and is trying to get information on the nature of the accident from the trader. He is guessing damaged wheel hub. Oh and alignment boys switched left and right front wheels so I could check that it wasn't the tyres. The new ball joints, bearings, tracking has helped a little but it's still erratic and sometimes pulling away or pulling up to a junction or going over a speed bump the steering can get away from you. It still veers left. Sometimes the wheel can take some real effort. That said I drove it back from Brighton on m23 this weekend and whilst it's not as glued to the road as you would hope (I am also conscious of not trusting the cars steering) it is okay at speed on motorway. The trader says the last owner had it for five years and doesn't know about any accident. My mechanic says engine bay respraying looks v recent.
My initial 30 days are up on sat. I have spent £700 or so on restoring the leather, the vinyl paint, stereo and above repairs and preparing to waste time going to small claims court to get refund plus costs but now as then, I would rather repair and pursue him for the costs. I could even (whisper it) live without damages if I could sort the car out. The mechanic is hesitant to guess at price of repairs because they can't guess yet what might be bent. It's a small but significant problem but otherwise a good little car.
I was wondering whether you all had any thoughts and at a push knew anyone in London area good for a second opinion?
Cheers guys
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