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i cant see how you can try to make out that recylcing dont reduce emissions, if it takes less energy to reuse something than make a new one then of course it helps, saying transporting it uses energy makes no sense as the raw materials needed to make new items dont magically fly into the factories ya know.
one ton of office and computer paper with recycled paper stock can save nearly 3,000 kilowatt hours over the same ton of paper made with virgin wood products.
A ton of soda cans made with recycled aluminum saves an amazing 21,000 kilowatt hours by reducing the virgin bauxite (bozite) ore that would have to be mined, shipped, and refined. That’s a 95% energy savings.
A ton of PET plastic containers made with recycled plastic conserves about 7,200 kilowatt hours.
The San Diego County Office of Education has figured out that recycling one glass bottle saves enough energy to light a 100 watt light bulb for four hours.
The Steel Recycling Institute has found that steel recycling saves enough energy to electrically power the equilvalent of 18 million homes for a year.
and none of that takes into account the space in landfill saved as well as the pollution land fill can cause.
i have to point out i'm no eco warrior, i just think it cant hurt to try and fix the problem as at worst it'll waste some money, and at best it could save the planet.
I didn't have the figures, I'll take onboard what you said re this post, but the examples you've given me kinda pushes me back to my original post and I stand by my view that its better to keep old cars running than make lots of new ones working on this CO2, us the climate theory. However the scrapping cars policy has nothing to do with it, but rather the EU trying to impliment more control over the population, and protect the manufacture of the sh***y cars that the French produce, not benefit the environment.
However I do not beleive that mans emissions alter the weather and until it can be said without any doubt with evidence that is credible, by someone who is credible, then I will continue to believe and say what I say.
I do however beleive that recyling, efficient with energy and materials is a good thing, but not for the case of the weather, but so we preserve our resources (which is a separate coversation over whether a wee bit extra Co2 3% changes the weather).
However this 3% is very good for money, the tax man, socialist governments and policies and I keep coming back to the politics behind this, and they stink.
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