Today's news scrapping old cars.

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i cant see how you can try to make out that recylcing dont reduce emissions, if it takes less energy to reuse something than make a new one then of course it helps, saying transporting it uses energy makes no sense as the raw materials needed to make new items dont magically fly into the factories ya know.

one ton of office and computer paper with recycled paper stock can save nearly 3,000 kilowatt hours over the same ton of paper made with virgin wood products.

A ton of soda cans made with recycled aluminum saves an amazing 21,000 kilowatt hours by reducing the virgin bauxite (bozite) ore that would have to be mined, shipped, and refined. That’s a 95% energy savings.

A ton of PET plastic containers made with recycled plastic conserves about 7,200 kilowatt hours.

The San Diego County Office of Education has figured out that recycling one glass bottle saves enough energy to light a 100 watt light bulb for four hours.

The Steel Recycling Institute has found that steel recycling saves enough energy to electrically power the equilvalent of 18 million homes for a year.

and none of that takes into account the space in landfill saved as well as the pollution land fill can cause.

i have to point out i'm no eco warrior, i just think it cant hurt to try and fix the problem as at worst it'll waste some money, and at best it could save the planet.

:D I didn't have the figures, I'll take onboard what you said re this post, but the examples you've given me kinda pushes me back to my original post and I stand by my view that its better to keep old cars running than make lots of new ones working on this CO2, us the climate theory. However the scrapping cars policy has nothing to do with it, but rather the EU trying to impliment more control over the population, and protect the manufacture of the sh***y cars that the French produce, not benefit the environment.

However I do not beleive that mans emissions alter the weather and until it can be said without any doubt with evidence that is credible, by someone who is credible, then I will continue to believe and say what I say.

I do however beleive that recyling, efficient with energy and materials is a good thing, but not for the case of the weather, but so we preserve our resources (which is a separate coversation over whether a wee bit extra Co2 3% changes the weather).

However this 3% is very good for money, the tax man, socialist governments and policies and I keep coming back to the politics behind this, and they stink.
 
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Its just euro socialism.

They all want us in french made eco boxes terrified witless that we are emiiting CO2 (actually not a major global warmer in the scale we as a race emit) and that we speed. Hence all this carbon this, global that propoganda. Propoganda is a device of socialism and it should be recognised as that.

Anything nice (like an older nice car) has to be removed so we are all driving eco snotboxes made in france (strong in the eu and big in making snotboxes). As nice old cars are now affordablish, thats no good for the EU and their pervese ways, so they legistlate against them.

We all have and know all about our cars, but, without them how far could you go without them? say - on a bike? 5,10,20 - 30miles?

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Up to 2 years ago on a Monday morning, 1 dustcart, 3 men, rubbish gone.

Now 4 dustcarts, 12 men, crap all over the street, kerbs all busted by these trucks .

Is this progress or am I missing something !

The biggest emmitter of C02 gases (methane) is the worlds oceans , volcanoes and a cows arse .
 
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Up to 2 years ago on a Monday morning, 1 dustcart, 3 men, rubbish gone.

Now 4 dustcarts, 12 men, crap all over the street, kerbs all busted by these trucks .

Is this progress or am I missing something !

The biggest emmitter of C02 gases (methane) is the worlds oceans , volcanoes and a cows arse .

But a poor cow cannot pay tax you see. Its a farce, laugable really.
 
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i certainly started somthing here, some good comments raised, just for the record i agree that conservation and saving things, looking after things is the right way forward. i also beleive that climate change is totally inevitable, as some one said, volcanics, oceans, etc. man's co2 is political. we have massive over capacity in the developed world and employment and taxation rules, it makes the rich richer as well. i like the saying "less is more" but we will have more flights, more population and more short termism. look what's happening in china, you cannot blame them for wanting cars, luxury electrical goods, two hols/ yr. etc. eventually their young women will be able to drive their kids to school in big 4x4's, and unmarried young mothers will have their own homes, all paid for by the chinese government, pigs can fly, really ! herbiemercman.
 


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