Told you our lot would follow germany- car scrapping.

[HERBIEMERCMAN]

hi everyone, some weeks ago i predicted that the german scrap car scheme would reach our shores. the budget this week confirmed this. the thing i find amazing is that many new car buyers do not seem to realise that you can acheive £2k or more off the retail price on many new cars for cash. this means you can sell your old car and pocket the money you get for it. we now live in the "buy one get one free" culture, so let them all get on with it. my merc is a superb, 1997. e300 td 7 seater est. no rust, 6 air bags limo, worth about £4k, worth a lot more to me. i do not want a little plastic fart car for £8,000 made in china/ france, taiwan. etc. also i could never fork out another £50,000 for a new limo, this is a rediculouse amount of money for anyone who has worked for it. the people like bankers, property developers etc. who have now been bailed out by we tax payers buy this type of limo, as the money came easy, it's not capitalism in my opinion, it is robbery fully supported by a hypocritical soon to die, new labour government. i am still hoping they do not default to the ultimate planet saver of enforcing the 10 yr old car scrap scheme, place your bets ? herbiemercman.

 

[st4]

As far as I see it, the bulk of people that have older cars have them because that is what they can afford, and would have a newer car if they could afford.

1. Tis grant won't change that, and many folk will have to buy their new eco/snot box by taking out loans they cannot realistically afford to repay. This makes a bad problem worse
2. I don't buy this CO2 argument so how is of any benefit to the public that Mr X has replaced his trusty old 13yr old Mondeo with a brand spanking fiesta. I am sure its nice for Mr X, but it doesn't benefit me.
3. Lets work with this CO2 balls....the energy of making a new car will not be offset for many years by its lower CO2 emissions so we are being very ungreen here.
4. It may help jobs, but there are other jobs that will be lost like back street mechanics as the newer fleet won't need so much maintenence
5. Fleet buyers may just hold onto their cars rather than replace them, as this now gives a car a defined lifespan.

Thankfully its not for ever, as its going again next year.

 

[television]

On the BBC news they said that you can save £3k on a focus with this scheme, or £4k on line

 

[*Thumper]

And I told you........ the government would get the car trade to pay for it !!!!

 

[st4]

On the BBC news they said that you can save £3k on a focus with this scheme, or £4k on line

Brokers like broadspeed and drivethedeal.com usually have great offers on cars like this.

I have a confession to make. 2-3 years ago when the mondeo ST170 TDCi came out I nearly plumped for one, £16k delivery miles on broadspeed with leather interior. £23k list....

I am glad I didn't but deals are galore on the mass market stuff.

 

[*Thumper]

I tried Broadspeed and friends for my C Class ........ they could'nt touch the MB dealers ........ who would have thought that !!!!

 

[brandwooddixon]

Hmm ... and look how many manufacturers recently increased their list prices by £1500, allegedly due to the changes in Euro exchange rates.

Am I being cynical in thinking that this was all a prelude to the government announcement?

 

[Dosco]

Hmm ... a

Am I being cynical in thinking that this was all a prelude to the government announcement?

cynical? surely not! honest maybe though

 

[PeterCLK]

From what I've seen there is nothing about CO2 in this scheme.
It is merely to support the car industry in these difficult times.
Limiting it to 300,000 vehicles means that it isn't going to cost them all that much.
Like the VAT cut it's a token thing - as others say, you can already get several thousand off a new car so you will never know if the £1000 was a deal maker.

 

[JEZ.S320L]

A colleague of mine picked up a brand new Range Rover - dealer price on the windscreen, £60k - for £32k cash.! A nice saving of £28k Oh, and he didn't have a £2k trade-in, either.

There are some savings to be made

 

[hawk20]

Hmm ... and look how many manufacturers recently increased their list prices by £1500, allegedly due to the changes in Euro exchange rates.

Am I being cynical in thinking that this was all a prelude to the government announcement?

To be fair the collapse of the pound has added hugely to the cost of imported cars. Price rises were inevitable.

 

[hawk20]

They've got round the problem of people buying old bangers to get the grant by saying you must have owned it for twelve months. And the scheme will end before twelve months is up.

 

[D1gger5]

Headline chasing again!!!!

Right, I get £2K to scrap my "legal" 10+ year old family car for a new one. This is then crushed as it has no discernable value. For this I need to find/borrow £5K to £6K for a pug 106, £14K for a modern family euroblob or a bit more for some decent MB. If I was retired and my old Rover 111/Metro or Fiesta/Corsa/Yaris/whatever was this age and I was downsizing my car then maybe this is financially viable with the availability of cash/credit.

My scrapped car has nearly new parts on it, FSH, potentially low mileage but no-one else can benefit in recycling it to keep some older cars for posterity/sentimentality.

HOW is it green to crush a perfectly good car that is offsetting more CO2 by being still under 200,000 miles, over its design life of 10 years and paid for before the credit/loan bubble burst?

I do not want to drive a microblob or modern high-tech computer/micro-controller controlled car because I don't want credit/loans. BTW I parked my Capri next to the new shape Fiesta the other day - there was about 3ft difference in lengths and thats a small hatchback. An older shape (2006) E Class is only slightly longer than my car.

Then the YTS/YOP/??? that maintain these modern cars via the computer terminal diagnostics who do "What the computer says" without having any idea about diagnosing the fault if it is not the component the computer says is wrong (O2/lamda sensor, Engine Management Unit or air flow flap sticking).

They will not get me into a brand new car unless they give it to me - period. And I am looking for cars up to 99 including "W" so that I know what tax I will be paying and not the lottery of the new or latest bands.

RANT OVER

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