Tyre dilemma

[CoventGardenCabrio]

Two of my tyres are coming up for replacement (205/60 R15). The ContiEcoContact tyres that are on the car were on there when I bought it and I have had good wear out of them, but as I haven't used other tyres I wonder what your views are. Should I stick with Continental (PremiumContact) or should I go for Michelin Pilot Premacys or Pirelli P6000?

 

[cambo]

pilots are dangerous when wet, i can get really good prices on any sized tyres, im from the north west.

if you after a quote just let me know make and sizes

i talking about prices areound 70 quid a tyre that have only had 100 miles on, and kid you not, just see the tread.

 

[CoventGardenCabrio]

Thanks - so we're down to the Contis or the Pirellis?

 

[cambo]

i like conti but think pirelle sticks well n longer life. what prices have you been quoted

 

[CoventGardenCabrio]

Thanks Cambo, I haven't looked at prices yet, just trying to choose the best tyre first.

 

[EuroCLK320]

pilots are dangerous when wet, i can get really good prices on any sized tyres, im from the north west.

if you after a quote just let me know make and sizes

i talking about prices areound 70 quid a tyre that have only had 100 miles on, and kid you not, just see the tread.

Where are these tyres from Cambo? If they are from cars in accidents how can you be sure the tyres aren't damaged?

 

[cambo]

they have only done 100 miles max, there simply

they have only done 100 miles max, there simply track testing, we test tyres on a track to test performance, on various different grounds etc, but we started selling them cos its a good saving plus we always just used to stock them

 

[SLinKyjoe]

why are pilots dangerous in the wet......i had perrelli p zeros on a car. they were okay in the dry and managed to last 9000miles...they were the worst tyres i ever had the misfortune to drive in the wet with...they were all over the place.

i changed for pilots and they lasted 230000miles. the car handled far better in the wet....i supoose on a track they may not have come up the the perreli's but on the road they seemed as good.

 

[mlc]

Cambo,

Never like to argue with anyone - but how can you can say pilots are dangerous. For one think the Michelin man will be calling at you house to do you over

Michelin is one of the worlds top tyre makers, they dont make bad tyres, neither do any of the other top companies, thay all have to meet safety standards. I agree that wel all have our favourites and that some tyres are better in the dry, in the wet, in snow etc, but dangerous - I dont think so.

On the second subject of nearly new tyres. Would I buy tyres with 100 miles of test track usage? Not for me thanks, if you are testing performance on a track its hardly equivalent to 100 miles of gentle usage around town is it.

Mark.

 

[peterchurch]

i like conti but think pirelle sticks well n longer life. what prices have you been quoted

I would stay away from the p6000 unless you only use your car as a shopping cart I had some on a T5 and they were awful I switched to uniroyal rainsports and they were much nicer...

 

[guydewdney]

ditto on the pirellis - stay away.

consider dunlop sp9000's - much better and lasting ages so far on mine (an mine eats tyres for breakfast)

 

[philharve]

Recommended tyres

I'm going to have to replace the tyres on my MB soon - next couple of months - and I was wondering whether I should stick with the recommended rubber.

I have encountered a remarkable improvement in handling with one of my previous cars by simply by changing the make of tyre. Pirellis and Michelins do seem to come in for a bit of stick yet they are frequently recommended for high performance cars. Are they so bad or is it a choice of grip over longevity?

If I can get >20kmiles from a set of tyres I would be smiling BUT wet weather grip is equally important.

I went with Toyo on my Celica and was impressed with grip and longevity.

What works, what doesn't? What should I expect to pay?

REGARDS

 

[OlafMaxwell]

What can I say....my car came with Michelins, I never felt confident in the wet, back end broke free quite a few times. Changed them when they wore at 25k for Pirelli P6000 and have been using them since. Last set of front tyres lasted 42k, rears over 30k. I have been very happy with them, particularly in wet. Having said all that I use Dunlops on the Peugeot....so maybe it's a combination of driving pattern and car type. The one thing I have always found critical, especially in the wet is having tyre pressures correct and also exactly equal on each axle.

 

[Spike]

Pirelli P6000's are amongst the very worst tyres I have had the misfortune of buying.

The are the noisiest tyres I've ever had with little or ne benefit in the performance / wear stakes to balance the equation.

My advice is to stay away.

My personal preference for a good all round tyre that doesnt break the bank... Nokian!

http://www.nokiantyres.com/

My tyres have stock http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/reifenbestellen.pl?typ=R-105655&dsco=10

 

[pascal]

For those that are saying Michelan piliots are poor in the wet, I totally disagree. I had pirelli P6000 on a car before and they are only average. P-Zero are better.

There are different kinds of michelin pilots, and the are completly different.

Michelin Pilot Sport and Sport PS are 'Max Performance' tyre and thus would not be considered 'quite' or very long wearing. It has fantastic traction in the dry, and is pretty good in the wet also. Eagle F1 GS-D3, Bridgestone Potenza s03 Pole position and P-ZERO-NERO are also in this catorgy, and there is little to divide the three on actual track tests in wet or dry. All of these tyres a expensive

Michelin Primacy is a 'Grand Touring' tyre and thus would be consided 'quite' and long wearing.

None of the above tyres are great on snow, so just drive a little slower.

SEE http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/index.jsp for all tyre surveys

SEE http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testSearch.jsp for actual road tests.

What I am trying to say is there are many different tyres to suit all individuals driving, and there is no such thing as saying one is better than the other because our requirements differ.

PS. I got Pilot Sport PS on mine. The previous owner put these on, so I'm not complaining. Don't know whether I'd spend that much on tyres when I go to replace them. Not even thinking of that at the moment.

 

[JonW]

i changed for pilots and they lasted 230000miles. .

Just bought Contis today expecting 25000 miles, but 230,000, is that a record?

 

[petes350]

Tyre Poll

The Honda Africa Twin forum has a tyre poll - see link

www.xrv.org.uk/tyre_poll/tyre_poll_wizard.php

The sort of thing people would like here maybe? No idea how to do it though I'm afraid!

 

[pascal]

The way Joe drives I think he meant 2,300.00:lol:

 

[SLinKyjoe]

yes......the Moon and back....altho most of that is thru space so you dont actually wear them out...23,000 and as it happens i sold the car with them on so they probably got a few thousand more out of them.


never thought about different cars reacting differnlty to tyres...but some people used the Micheilin Energy tyres that were ultra low resistance to gain better MPG. you also had to use higher than normal pressure to gain a noticable difference. But if you lower the rolling resistnace of the tyre it is gonna be a handfull in wet or dry hard driving. This leads some people to think Michelins are not good. I would always buy michelin when given the choice, I avoid pirelli's as they dont offer much confidence in the wet and dont last, I avoid Goodyear as they dont last that well.

None of the above slates the tyre type tho. They have their attirbutes but much of it is down to whether you want to buy a BMW (Drivers car)or a Mercedes (Proper car). You tend to pay for what you get but some tyres are more designed for sporty driving than every day use. You will also notice the tyre manufacturers build tyres aimed at cars that dont do lots of travelling and therefore are more of your sunday hard drivers car....in a real world they will last upto 10000 miles but on second and third cars this can be the entire duration of ownership for some people.

so you have to decide what you need your tyre to do. I dont drive track day style most of the time so i want long lasting. But i often sell the car before they get worn out anyway.

My view is that any well known tyre maker will do long lasting safe tyres for all conditions for most wheels sizes. I would never put remoulds on any car as they are the only thing that keeps you on the road....not worth the risk to me.

 

[nickh]

I purchased dunlop sp sport 01's 205 / 60 r15 from mytyres.co.uk brand new @ £50 each, just had to get them fitted , balanced etc for £5 each .. bargain and great tyres..