Unmarked cop got me

[LSD]

Yes to some I guess it is Malcolm, but the vast majority of these bikers are well in control of what they're doing, breaking the law notwithstanding!

It's a difficult area to define, the level of variation that is/should be acceptable on the roads. The system has mercilessly pumped the black & white, letter-of-the-law mantra and is beating the hell out of us with it.

I just don't like that this has promoted such a level of hatred by some that they would wish harm on other people.

 

[Lerpy]

I'm not sure that hatred is being promoted, just a healthy dislike of others who use the road system as if only they and their interests/intentions matter. If one of those bikers had been injured by hitting a car I'm sure that the headlines would have been car hits bike, not vice versa. If bikers want to travel at that sort of speed then let them go for a track day, or is that too much to ask?

 

[Alex M Grieve]

It's a difficult area to define, the level of variation that is/should be acceptable on the roads. The system has mercilessly pumped the black & white, letter-of-the-law mantra and is beating the hell out of us with it.

I would be happy to settle for the same rules applying to all, and a convention that where double white lines are present they must not be crossed.

The fighter pilots who flout these conventions, either singly or in groups, might well be capable of doing so but equally might not. After all, we have highly trained professional police pursuit drivers who do not seem to fare any better than the rest of us when the record is examined. Who can give us any warranty that motorcyclists who apply their own interpretation of the rules of the road are competent?

Having driven in and out of London on the M40/A40 at peak periods, I can find little sympathy for the motorcyclist who barge their way between slower moving vehicles, engaging with paintwork and disrupting wing mirrors.

I accept that, as with many things in life, it is the few who get the majority a bad name.

A conversation I had with a cab driver when we were cut up on Park Lane by a motor cyclist who had clearly put himself at risk made his views clear on the subject. When I asked "how many motor cyclists are killed on the streets of London", he replied, "Not enough mate, not nearly enough".

 

[stumpy]

I would be happy to settle for the same rules applying to all, and a convention that where double white lines are present they must not be crossed.

The fighter pilots who flout these conventions, either singly or in groups, might well be capable of doing so but equally might not. After all, we have highly trained professional police pursuit drivers who do not seem to fare any better than the rest of us when the record is examined. Who can give us any warranty that motorcyclists who apply their own interpretation of the rules of the road are competent?

Having driven in and out of London on the M40/A40 at peak periods, I can find little sympathy for the motorcyclist who barge their way between slower moving vehicles, engaging with paintwork and disrupting wing mirrors.

I accept that, as with many things in life, it is the few who get the majority a bad name.

A conversation I had with a cab driver when we were cut up on Park Lane by a motor cyclist who had clearly put himself at risk made his views clear on the subject. When I asked "how many motor cyclists are killed on the streets of London", he replied, "Not enough mate, not nearly enough".

Motorcyclists are the bane of my life. (I am one too incidentally) It's not just filtering at speed that scares me but the slow stuff too. I hate sitting in the traffic at the top of the A3 where it goes from 3 lanes to 1 at Wandsworth. I watch my wing mirrors in fear as yet another one threatens to gouge the side of the Bentley !

 

[truthfindergeneral]

No one hates what this govt does to the concept of freedom more than I do but the atrocious behavior of bikers is getting well out of hand. It was clear why they were using some of the back roads of South Wales .. because they were pretty confident that they would go undetected. You want to go a few miles over the speed limit and put no one but yourself at risk, I have no problem with that. However, these cretins were totally unconcerned with any of the other road users around them.

 

[PeterCLK]

Regrettably another one killed near here yesterday.
I reckon it's about one per week in the summer (Cumbria and N lancs)
Going over to Yorkshire on the A65 on a Sunday is hell.
It's not the convoys it's just the idiots going very very fast. No time to see them coming up behind you - then taking stupid risks passing.

 

[dizzy lizzy]

So, there are lots of Poles working in Sweden too then? So much for expansion of the EU. Is there no limit?

yes - they like cleaning televisions and smearing the screens

 

[television]

yes - they like cleaning televisions and smearing the screens

They will do anything for the Queen (y)

 

[rpe2]

Spare a thought for Mrs E.

A few years ago, she was in a company car (on a client visit with client in the car), doing 36mph in a 30 zone, got caught by the copper with a hairdryer.

Today, she thinks she's been done again (again in a company car on company business, driving a client).

Some people have no luck.

Oh, Mrs E's employer; Her Majesty's Police Constabulary of Hampshire.

 

[Alex M Grieve]

yes - they like cleaning televisions and smearing the screens

Are those from Poland not famous for their cabaret skills? Like those from Lapland?

 

[television]

Are those from Poland not famous for their cabaret skills? Like those from Lapland?

Its too hard to say if the poles in Lapland come from Poland

They have thousands of them that they stick along the roads so that you can see how deep the snow is

 

[JEZ.S320L]

Its too hard to say if the poles in Lapland come from Poland

They have thousands of them that they stick along the roads so that you can see how deep the snow is

They are 6metres tall on the Massif Central - thin as a rake though

 

[dizzy lizzy]

Are those from Poland not famous for their cabaret skills? Like those from Lapland?

I've lost the plot - love from Queeny:lol:

 

[johnboy615]

ANPR cameras indeed - now that is a good idea - car not taxed? guess why - no insurance - pull them over and drive them straight into a roadside crusher - driver removal optional, but not encouraged

They can tell if you have no insurance even if your car is taxed. The only thing they didn't tell was if the car was MOTed, I believe even with has changed now that the computerised MOT is in place. Long live the ANPR I'd like to see every uninsured car crushed though I don't suppose it will drop anyone's premiums!

 

[Alex M Grieve]

I've lost the plot - love from Queeny:lol:

Dear Queeny, do these countries not each produce famous exotic dancers? (Poles, Laps)?

Do try to keep up ...........

 

[Retired]

Yes, we need to take people off the road who have no tax, MOT or insurance, and ANPR vans are one way of doing it. Bit hit and miss though waiting for someone to come along. Seems to take a lot of resources too, lots of police officers, bikes etc.

If I don’t pay for my television licence I can be pretty certain I’ll receive a visit and / or summons from the TV licence people.

Why can’t untaxed etc. owners receive a similar visit? Why do we have lots of expensive resources standing around at the side of the road waiting for an offender to happen along? Much cheaper and I would have thought more effective.

I know that some vehicles won’t be registered to the owners address, but many will be.

 

[hotbaws]

I wonder what would have happened if the road tax that I'd ordered online from the DVLA hadn't turned up in time for my trip to Liverpool and one of these ANPR camera's clocked my car with the out of date August tax disc?

Would it know from the DVLA database that one had been purchased or would you be chased for not displaying a valid road tax....

Just a thought?

 

[television]

I wonder what would have happened if the road tax that I'd ordered online from the DVLA hadn't turned up in time for my trip to Liverpool and one of these ANPR camera's clocked my car with the out of date August tax disc?

Would it know from the DVLA database that one had been purchased or would you be chased for not displaying a valid road tax....

Just a thought?

The offence can be failing to display,,though when a car is taxed it is seldom used

 

[Lerpy]

I got picked up by an ANPR camera when I had tax and the DVLA computer said I hadn't, apparently they can be up to a month behind with updates!!!

 

[Miffy]

I wonder what would have happened if the road tax that I'd ordered online from the DVLA hadn't turned up in time for my trip to Liverpool and one of these ANPR camera's clocked my car with the out of date August tax disc?

Would it know from the DVLA database that one had been purchased or would you be chased for not displaying a valid road tax....

Just a thought?

The ANPR camera will not see the missing disk, its all tied into the network, so it locates the number plate, calculates the registration details, and thats matched against the dvla database, if your tagged as being a car to look out for, or if the DB shows a hit against you, then its flagged up to the operators