W124 Engine oil capacity?

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hi - i have the E220 in the W124 chassis, which does not appear to be covered by my Haynes manual. can anyone tell me the correct capacity of the engine sump, when changing oil? i've put in 5l, as that seemed like a fair compromise, but would like to know the actual specified amount, if anyone knows it. thanks!
 

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is the dipstick snapped? ithink about 5.5 litres is near enough. but it should have a stick on a 124 chassis.

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is the dipstick snapped? ithink about 5.5 litres is near enough. but it should have a stick on a 124 chassis.

regards ted
I think I have said it before, the lady went into the garage and asked for a longer dipstck as hers would not reach the oil. Ok I will go to bed.

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hm. no, the dipstick is fine. i merely enquired as to what the manufacturer's spec was. obviously you two know this, but are for some reason witholding the information. i shall have to think of some ingenious way of tricking the figures out of you ;-)
 

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Oil grade cold climate 5W/30. Moderate, 10W/40. Hot, 20W/50.
Engine oil classification SG/A2-96. Gearbox oil grade ATF-A, 4-5 speed. 1.5 liter. Autobox, Dexron 11, drain and refil 5.5 liter. Differential 90W 1.1liter. Brake Fluid, Dot 4, 0.6 liter. Power steering fluid, Type 000 989 88 03,1 liter.


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ps, almost forgot, engine with filter, 5.8 liters :-D
 

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You are going about this question the wrong way.

Even if you knew the total sump capacity, how would you know how much oil was left in the engine after you had drained the old oil (there is always a surprising amount remaining in the nooks and crannies).

Therefore when you refilled, you would likely be overfilling, which is bad for the engine and oil seals.

You should therefore be guided by the dipstick.

The ideal level is BETWEEN the min and max levels on the dipstick.

If you find you have overfilled you must let some out.

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kth286 said:
flagstaff

You are going about this question the wrong way.

Even if you knew the total sump capacity, how would you know how much oil was left in the engine after you had drained the old oil (there is always a surprising amount remaining in the nooks and crannies).

Therefore when you refilled, you would likely be overfilling, which is bad for the engine and oil seals.

You should therefore be guided by the dipstick.

The ideal level is BETWEEN the min and max levels on the dipstick.

If you find you have overfilled you must let some out.

Regards

I always empty the sump when hot and allow to drain for about 1hr with the vehicle canted towards the sump plug if possible, whilst I do other parts of the service. I then replace with the specified amount. Any oil in the nooks and crannys will be there whether before or after the oil fill and can be discounted. I've found that relying on the dipstick is VERY dodgy as it depends WHEN you check the oil, even if you leave it for the statutory 5 mins after the engine is turned off.

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With multi-valve heads it can take a very long time for the oil to drain into the sump before you can get an accurate reading. Vauxhall used to have a 15min recommendation, however with their 16v diesels they recommend overnight for a reading now. So many owners thought they were low on oil, the dipstick not even close to long enough, 2+ ltrs had to be added. Next day engine over full and a distinct possibility of a hydraulic lock and resultant new engine. Patience is the key.
 
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thanks all for your input. 5.8 litres it is.

actually, bearing in mind all that has been said, i'll put in 5.65313275 litres.

where is the dipstick, anyway?
 

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flagstaff said:
thanks all for your input. 5.8 litres it is.

actually, bearing in mind all that has been said, i'll put in 5.65313275 litres.

where is the dipstick, anyway?

I love your humour, to be truthful, if you drain a hot engine, and leave it 10 mins, the amount of oil that comes out after that would not fill a coffee jar lid. Mix that with 5.8 liters !!!!!!!, and as long as the oil is between the marks it does not matter one bit.

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i wouldnt put that much in !
5.653132 litres should be enough.

Hang on, is that warm or cold oil ?

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Now this is do know: definitely warm. in fact, it was pretty close to boiling.

i say pretty close, because it's a fair walk from the stove to the garage.
 
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