WARNING TO CLS OWNERS!!! 8000 mile tyres!

[OlafMaxwell]

Exact tyre pressures and alignment are very important. I have never seen only 8,000 miles on a car tyre.

E320 CDI Estate was doing 25,000 miles on tyres, even on the rear. However I gladly sacrifice longevity for wet weather grip.

I also use a BMW motorcycle and motorcycles are notorious for using tyres much faster because they have to use softer compounds and are subject to other factors. Even on that it betters 8,000 miles for the rear although one can reduce that to below 4,000 with an itchy right hand.

 

[parthiban]

Mine are more worn in the centers and I run on the min pressure, I will reduce a touch more when I put them back on again

The pressure isn't a key factor but it may help slightly, even better than lowering the pressure is if you can get the tyres inflated with nitrogen which isn't affected by temperature.

 

[whitenemesis]

The pressure isn't a key factor but it may help slightly, even better than lowering the pressure is if you can get the tyres inflated with nitrogen which isn't affected by temperature.

I think you'll find that is not accurate, besides which normal compressed air is 80% nitrogen and so the difference would be insignificant.

http://www.powertank.com/truth.or.hype/

 

[parthiban]

That article doesn't actually say that anything I've said is inaccurate - differences might be small but they are valid.

There's a reason why they use nitrogen in F1 - because at those extremes these differences are a lot more significant.

 

[whitenemesis]

That article doesn't actually say that anything I've said is inaccurate - differences might be small but they are valid.

There's a reason why they use nitrogen in F1 - because at those extremes these differences are a lot more significant.

You said nitrogen wasn't affected by temperature changes, which is inaccurate to the point of being untrue. All gases are affected by temperature.

 

[parthiban]

You said nitrogen wasn't affected by temperature changes, which is inaccurate to the point of being untrue. All gases are affected by temperature.

Fair enough, I should have said *less* affected by temperature

 

[turbopete]

Exact tyre pressures and alignment are very important. I have never seen only 8,000 miles on a car tyre.

it can also depend on the way the car is driven and where it is driven. lots of road junctions needing fairly rapid acceleration (t junctions onto fast, busy A roads for example) will accelerate tyre wear, as will different compounds in different brands of tyre. my car, under dads ownership got through goodyear eagle NCT5's on the rear at a rate of 10k miles per set. michelins lasted 15k, but were 50% more expensive so cost per mile was no different.

the 202 220 diesel that the 203 replaced (for him) the tyres lasted around 40k! but again, the car was being used differently (more motorway running) and had less power and lower speed rated (usually harder compound) tyres

 

[concordepilot19]

If you want to get high miles out of rear CLS tyres don't boot it in 1st or 2nd gear where the torque multiplication is highest. I asked the MB dealer why my Conti 3s have worn down to 3mm in the middle, with 5mm remaining on the outside after only 35,000 miles but got no real answer and the pressures were spot-on. Gutted.

 

[whitenemesis]

Then drop the pressures a couple pound. There's a range of recommended pressures not one prescripted pressure. You need to experiment to get the pressure that gives even wear.

 

[star]

If you want to get high miles out of rear CLS tyres don't boot it in 1st or 2nd gear where the torque multiplication is highest. I asked the MB dealer why my Conti 3s have worn down to 3mm in the middle, with 5mm remaining on the outside after only 35,000 miles but got no real answer and the pressures were spot-on. Gutted.

Wide tyres will deflect outward in the middle with speed causing more wear in the middle. Do. You do a lot of high speed miles?

 

[television]

Many of us run at 2.2 bar all round, and as above drop the pressures.

It works the other way round too wear in the edges and the center all good, blow them up a bit.

The ride could not have been good with so much air in the tyres

 

[Rob law]

Tyres

My CLS only does around 8000 miles I have put Michelins on 18 wheels a cost of 1043 for four but only 8000 miles

Now use cheapest I can find and still get around the same mileage but at 60% of the costs.

 

[television]

My CLS only does around 8000 miles I have put Michelins on 18 wheels a cost of 1043 for four but only 8000 miles

Now use cheapest I can find and still get around the same mileage but at 60% of the costs.

Cant say I blame you

 

[Collos]

35,000 miles out of a set of rear tyres most people would give their hind teeth for such high mileage.

 

[Irresistance]

Meh... I feel like an old fart now. Have done about 110K miles on our W210 320 CDI and during that time consumed only 2.5 sets of tires (the 0.5 were the ones already on the car)

Now got winter tires on and they are still good for another 10-15K by the look of it. Even the summer set, so I have been told by the tire dudes, can last another season. So all up, on 2.5 sets I will have done about 140K. I must be driving like a snail, I guess

Goodyear NCT and some other mid-priced set, can't remember. Evenly worn too, never a problem.

 

[turbopete]

dad was only getting 10k from the rears on my car when it had Goodyear eagle NCT5's on it! MB Carlisle technician we got to know said he was amazed we were getting such GOOD mileage from them, as in his experience 4-5k from the rears was nearer the norm!

 

[rapide]

tyres

Hi, I purchased my W210 in 2003 and needed 4 tyres, tyre shop advised to fit, Kenda Komets, ( no its not a space ship) as all the merc mini cabs fit them, so 4 fitted at £ 125 all in, i have just replaced the rears as getting close to the wear bar, at 25,000 miles. fronts still like new, rear tyres are called Marangoni,( no its not a pasta dish) there is a race series with the make so should be good i hope! 2 @ £ 170! how times change . all tracking spot on . all the best Rap.

 

[concordepilot19]

Good point, most of it on UK Motorways at 70.0 mph (said the speed awareness course grateful attendee).

 

[JaBlonde]

Pirelli. Thats all.

Facts: I have a GL 420 Cdi and have had GL's for 6 years now. A set of Michelins lasted 4500 miles, the dealership fitted a new set which lasted 5000 miles. I tried to keep running them but they were illegal in the centre bar and aquaplaning was a big problem.
Next went to Continental Contact UHP, full set, bit noisier, terrible on mud tracks and grass, squealed a bit on cornering hard and didn't hold on as well as the Michelins in the dry but shot after 7500 miles.
Fitted Pirelli Scorpion Verde, full set and I am ecstatic. Done 6000 miles on them and I checked them last weekend, they have worn less than 1mm and better still, evenly across the tyre. They handle very well in the dry and wet and are noticeably better on mud tracks and grass. They don't seem to collect the mud in the treads either which I found with the other tyres. The fact they are labelled Verde, I was expecting some compromise on performance but there is none. They are fabulous.
There is no downside in my opinion and I am now trying to find a suitable fitment of Pirelli all season tyres for my wife's C220 sport (proving difficult and may have to order from US as only summer versions available in UK).
Oh, and fuel economy is better by about 1 mpg. Seriously. Amazing tyres.
Forgot to say - these are available on eBay from a seller in Germany at ridiculously cheap prices, something like £1,000 a set here and I think I paid £650 delivered in 3 days.