Winter Tyres E220 Estate

Alexn

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Hi All,

I got an E220 Estate a couple of month ago, and I wanted to buy tyres on blackcircle, although each time put my plates in I m offered with
245/45r 17 w 95 , while the ones (summer) I currently have are 225/50 r17 94y and I was wondering

A) are those the original one ?
B) any recommended tyres for winter for this car ?
C) should I use the same 225 or should I buy new rims for 245 ?

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Ref sizes, I'd double check your handbook and also the info placard (either on fuel filler cap or on driver's door pillar).

If you've got 245/45 R17 then I can recommend Avon Ice Touring ST - ran them on my CLS and they were very good. Not noisy, good wear rate, and were faultless in heavy winter rain & slush, standing water, etc.
 

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For winter use narrow is better....as mentioned by fronstep why not go all season?
Michelin cross climates are excellent
 
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For winter use narrow is better....as mentioned by fronstep why not go all season?
Michelin cross climates are excellent

I am often driving Glasgow Dundee, and Dundee may have snow this year (based on the temperature we've had in the last couple of weeks) so I thought i'd go with full snow tyres.
 

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Probably wise...I have Dunlop Wintersport 3D on my SL and my Audi A6 Avant
That's primarily as I couldn't get the cross climates in the sizes for those cars, or I would have gotten them.
I'm told most of the cars seen around the French alps are shod with cross climates year round so must be ok
 

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Full snow to me means a seperate set of narrower wheels.

I have Michelin cross climates,
but since i have had them they haven't seen a drop of snow so I couldn't tell you how they cope.
 

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Full snow to me means a seperate set of narrower wheels.

I have Michelin cross climates,
but since i have had them they haven't seen a drop of snow so I couldn't tell you how they cope.

I'm guessing they would be very good in rain or standing surface water though, which tends to be more the issue in the UK?
 

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Interesting quote from Continental Tyres:

Wide winter tires also offer advantages on typically wintry road surfaces. On compacted snow surfaces in particular, they offer more space to form sipe edges, fill deeper tire tread grooves with snow, and increase friction between the rubber and snow. The handling properties of a car fitted with wider winter tires are also enhanced on compacted snow surfaces............."

So, do you fit wider or narrower tyres in winter?

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Interesting quote from Continental Tyres:

Wide winter tires also offer advantages on typically wintry road surfaces. On compacted snow surfaces in particular, they offer more space to form sipe edges, fill deeper tire tread grooves with snow, and increase friction between the rubber and snow. The handling properties of a car fitted with wider winter tires are also enhanced on compacted snow surfaces............."

So, do you fit wider or narrower tyres in winter?

Umble

A good point indeed, this article;


Summary

ADAC
Therefore, ADAC says that you should install the narrowest tyres allowed by your car's specification.They also stress, that in crisis wintertime situations, a narrow tyre will always perform far better than a wider one.

Continental
On the other hand, Continental expects the driving culture to change over the next few years, so that drivers will start switching to wider winter tyres.If this wasn’t enough, Continental officially encourages drivers to install winter tyres that are as wide as the summer ones.



http://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-article/tyre-widths-narrow-or-wide-winter-tyres
 

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ADAC says that you should install the narrowest tyres allowed by your car's specification.They also stress, that in crisis wintertime situations, a narrow tyre will always perform far better than a wider one.


Look at the WRC snow tyres, staggeringly narrow (although they do have studs in)
 
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There is the old story of the 2cv citroen being able to go anywhere when snowing due to its narrow tyres. I am still not sure which ones are the best though for the e220.
 
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I'm not suprised one says narrow another says not :confused:
 

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I'm not suprised one says narrow another says not :confused:

I can understand the wide thing on compacted snow which is very hard so a larger contact patch would give more grip.

Maybe it is tyre tech progress and cars having bigger tyres these days so maybe they have been forced into it
 

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Maybe its about more tyre getting more friction .
 

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Ask a camel. Wide is better?
It must depend on the condition of the terrain.

As above, I also had a 2cv many years ago and yes, it was good in snow. Part of this was due to the fact that its undersides were completely smooth and it rode high, so it didn't get dragged to a stop by snow underneath. I also run a Panda - now with overwide winters - and it is excellent in the snow. I put that down partly to its high-riding stance.

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Yes Panda's are very good in the snow. I put that down to the four legs with big furry feet and grippy claws at the end.
 
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