I've just been done by the Police

[Speedmaster]

I got my Range Rover last week from a main dealer and wanted the tints. They were highly insistent that not tinting was done in front of the B-Pillar (i only wanted the back ones done anyway) and wanted me to sign something saying they had only agreed to the rears being done.

 

[Aussie Nick]

:I believe the police are targeting and have a blitz on shiny valve caps this week. So I think you will be alright.

 

[rf065]

I think to be fair most of us would agree that the law on tinting of windows in front of the B pillar was a necessary safety measure otherwise every modded Astra would be nearly blacked out. Anything which limits the driver's visibility is surely undesirable.

What is unfair though, is that responsible companies like Pentagon, who would not put anything other than a light tint on the front windows are penalised, all their work was perfectly legal. But because the boy racer brigade and the iffy back street accessory shops have no qualms about putting midnight black tints on the front, the goverment decides a blanket ban is required and all front tints should be removed. So the law abiding motorist and responsible companies suffer, rather than target the main offenders, becuase that would mean having to think about it logically which is beyond them.

Russ

 

[emscivil]

if they gave you a fine then you should also have been given notice to remove the film, if this is the case then just get a hair drier and gently heat up the glass then it should peel of quite easy, been there got the tee-shirt.

 

[maddog]

What is unfair though, is that responsible companies like Pentagon, who would not put anything other than a light tint on the front windows are penalised, all their work was perfectly legal. But because the boy racer brigade and the iffy back street accessory shops have no qualms about putting midnight black tints on the front, the goverment decides a blanket ban is required and all front tints should be removed. So the law abiding motorist and responsible companies suffer, rather than target the main offenders, becuase that would mean having to think about it logically which is beyond them.

Russ

thats not the case at all , a level was deemed to be a safe limit and some police have been issued equipment to test the level of tinting complies with this.

You can still tint front windows up to this perscribed limit but the factory tint on most glass already gets pretty close to this

 

[100%Bitch]

I think to be fair most of us would agree that the law on tinting of windows in front of the B pillar was a necessary safety measure otherwise every modded Astra would be nearly blacked out. Anything which limits the driver's visibility is surely undesirable.

All depends on how spotty the teenager is. It could actually be preferable.

 

[television]

All depends on how spotty the teenager is. It could actually be preferable.

I did not think that you looked at such things

 

[100%Bitch]

I did not think that you looked at such things

I do try to keep my head turned away, but sometimes, just sometimes, the urge does overcome me and I just have to stare at the volcanoes.;-)

On a serious note though, don't the police have more important things to worry about?

 

[rf065]

I do try to keep my head turned away, but sometimes, just sometimes, the urge does overcome me and I just have to stare at the volcanoes.;-)

On a serious note though, don't the police have more important things to worry about?

Only people who exceed the speed limit, you should know that?

Russ

 

[100%Bitch]

Only people who exceed the speed limit, you should know that?

Russ

Oh yes, I forgot about that.

Still, it's nice to feel wanted.:lol:

 

[cobe]

Tints

That's going to be a bummer,How am I going to hid from all my ex wives now,I thought it had to be only 30% light in.Nothing worse than pulling up opposite an ex in traffic driving her fiesta when your in something special,abusive phone call before you've got 200yrds away! back to a paper bag with holes in it I guess(and yes I am waiting for 100%bitch to say perhaps if I had done that in the first place they would not of left):cry::cry:

 

[Dave's E55 AMG]

I've just opened the ticket the police gave and I've noticed that the force that issued me the fine was Greater Manchester police, but the offence area where I was booked is in Merseyside - can they do that, move across the border I'd say a good 6-7 miles inside?

 

[cobe]

tints

I have a strong feeling they can,sadly it's not like america where if you escape to the next county your safe! But not 100% sure pehaps someone with legal knowledge on the forum will offer you some hope.:neutral::neutral:

 

[philharve]

Hi All

We have a company in Cornwall - I think it operates out of Truro - that runs a large fleet of stretch limos all painted different colours. Most of the glass panels in these vehicles are so heavily tinted that the are virtually opaque (black), looking from the outside in. I understand the visibility from inside to outside is much better. The front windscreen and the panels adjacent to the front seats look almost as black.

The legislation concerning tinting concerns what?

a) To ensure the driver has adequate all round visibility?

b) The driver can be seen by other road users?

c) Both?

d) Some other reason?

I assume a) but where does this leave wearers of heavily tinted sunglasses?

I'd like to think b) too because there are some situations, at road junctions (say), where I like to see the white of the eyes of other road users because it gives me confidence that we clearly see one another and no one will make any unexpected moves.

Of course, the foregoing applies equally to any vehicle with tinted glass panels but I have raised the example of stretch limos because they are such large vehicles. They can prove a nuisance in towns where the streets are narrow, Cornwall being a good example.

I have noticed that a significant proportion of stretch limo drivers wear heavily tinted specks. Is there to be legislation for these drivers too?

Just a thought!

REGARDS

Phil

 

[Dave's E55 AMG]

I've just remembered that my daughters boy friends best mate is in the Greater Manchester Police, I'll get him to ask him!

 

[st13phil]

I have noticed that a significant proportion of stretch limo drivers wear heavily tinted specks. Is there to be legislation for these drivers too?

AFAIK, there are no regulations limiting the tint for sunglasses worn when driving (I could be wrong on that, though). The rationale is that they can be quickly removed if light levels dictate the need.

However, us who ride bikes in the UK can't legally ride while a tinted visor with less than 70% light transmissibility is fitted to our crash helmet, but can legally wear sunglasses that are so dark a bright day looks like night, even though a heavily tinted visor can be raised quickly to restore 100% light transmission to the Mk1 eyeballs when entering a dark tunnel, yet the sunglasses are to all intents and purposes fixed and can't be removed while riding. Everyone recognises the absurdity of the regulations - even the DfT, apparently - and the Police in general ignore dark tinted visors unless the rider is daft enough to be riding at night or in poor visibility.

Go figure, as the Yanks say

 

[philharve]

Disabled drivers with tinted spectacles

Hi

I've just remembered that I have a distant acquaintance, a former headmaster, who has an unusual disability, his vision is inverted, it's a defect of his brain and not of his eyes. He was born like it and he wears prismatic spectacles to correct for the inversion. These special glasses are also very heavily tinted, like welding goggles, because he has little control over his pupils which are more-or-less permanently dilated. Apart from the strange looking spectacles you would not think he had a disability. He is a careful driver with many decades of experience.

Would the tinting legislation impact upon his right to drive?

REGARDS

Phil

 

[rf065]

The law was changed because of the uproar when a motorcyclists was killed when a car pulled out in front of him at night. The car had black tinted front windows, it was dark outside, he claimed he did not see the bike, and probably could not.
Before then, and that was my previous point, responsible companies and motorists used light tints on the windows and nobody was particularly concerned. It could not even be proven illegal in court as the existing law only concerned factory tinted windows, not window film itself. When the boy racers took it a stage to far, the government in their wisdom have changed the laws to include window tint film and decided to make it retrospective. The term sledgehammer to crack a nut comes to mind as VOSA have said, when asked why a simple MOT fail would not have solved the problem,

"Alan Wilson, head of VOSA’s Testing
Standards Policy and Strategy branch advised,
‘Excessively tinted glass is seen as a marginal
issue currently affecting a small number of
vehicles in relation to the 24 million tested
annually. To impose the £300 to £500 cost of
equipment on each of the 18,000 garages
could be seen as disproportionate in road
safety benefit terms. The time taken to test all
cars would have to increase and so would the
MOT fee, to account for the additional time
and investment in specialist equipment.’ For
this reason, VOSA has chosen to target
problem vehicles at minimum inconvenience
to compliant road users.

So, do the police carry £300 - £500 pounds worth of equipment to test tinted windows? I think not.

Russ

 

[rf065]

Hi

I've just remembered that I have a distant acquaintance, a former headmaster, who has an unusual disability, his vision is inverted, it's a defect of his brain and not of his eyes. He was born like it and he wears prismatic spectacles to correct for the inversion. These special glasses are also very heavily tinted, like welding goggles, because he has little control over his pupils which are more-or-less permanently dilated. Apart from the strange looking spectacles you would not think he had a disability. He is a careful driver with many decades of experience.

Would the tinting legislation impact upon his right to drive?

REGARDS

Phil

Would a prescription windscreen mean he could leave his glasses at home?

Russ

 

[philharve]

Refund?

Will this mean 'Dave's E55 AMG' will get a refund?

REGARDS

Phil