Merc Gearboxes

[eric242340]

I have managed to find one Mercedes ZF Gearbox, However the advert may not be totally accurate.;

Hi Blobcat, I took your advice and instead of Google I tried Yahho and simply entered Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions and got pages of it, check it out dude.

 

[television]

Your correct on this point, you cannot argue with anyone who fixes them. ZF is clearly marked on the late 80s to mid 90s boxes. You will not find this sort of information on the internet, and therefore you are misleading people. Any transmission specialist will concuur. and the poster of this thread thought time had been wasted? Then dont waste my time. Why ask if you think (?) you know, when obviously you dont. ZF for your information was an outsource supplier of MB from the 80s to late 90s and almost as well know as Bosch because of their boxes.

Eric,in post number 5 you said that my SL500 has a ZF box, this is a late car and that box has been out since 1996 and is still used today.

My first link says most that MB have made their own boxes from 1959 and where also how many they have made.

You have never answered one gearbox fault correctly, even when it came to the vacuum parts of the box, Hibbo and myself had to tell you how that worked.




It is you that should be putting up the links to justify your wild claims that MB use ZF boxes. for you are the only person in the world who say that.

I have sieved through 500 pages and not one to back your claims.

Why cant you be an engineer who knows a little about engines rather than pretending to be something else, it is unkind to the people posting and also the owners of this fine forum.

 

[eric242340]

Eric,in post number 5 you said that my SL500 has a ZF box, this is a late car and that box has been out since 1996 and is still used today.

My first link says most that MB have made their own boxes from 1959 and where also how many they have made.

You have never answered one gearbox fault correctly, even when it came to the vacuum parts of the box, Hibbo and myself had to tell you how that worked.




It is you that should be putting up the links to justify your wild claims that MB use ZF boxes. for you are the only person in the world who say that.

I have sieved through 500 pages and not one to back your claims.

Why cant you be an engineer who knows a little about engines rather than pretending to be something else, it is unkind to the people posting and also the owners of this fine forum.

Quote ( I have sieved through 500 pages and not one to back your claims? Just Yahoo it, as the internet is the only thing you believe. PS anyone can access the internet. Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions.

 

[television]

Quote ( I have sieved through 500 pages and not one to back your claims? Just Yahoo it, as the internet is the only thing you believe. PS anyone can access the internet. Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions.

You eric for once in your life put up some proof.

 

[eric242340]

You eric for once in your life put up some proof.

The proof, Malcolm, is on the internet and anyone can acess it. Simply go to Yahoo.com and search Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions and all is there for all to see.

 

[lakeside]

anyone can access the internet. Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions.

OK then, show me something, anything, that says that ZF supply automatic transmisions for Mercedes passenger cars. Trucks, yes. Buses, yes. Plus a 5-speed manual for the '70s SL. But not an auto for mercedes cars. Read the history of ZF. No mention of it supplying MB with automatic transmissions. Steering gear, yes. Axles for MLs, yes. ZF even have a factory down the road from Mercedes in Alabama where the ML is built. Guess what? About the only things made by MB for the ML are engines and transmissions. ZF supply the axle assemblies.
None of the search results for "Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions" back up your claim. Show me the proof. I'm genuinely interested to know if my 722 transmission is ZF. You made the claim, so please substantiate it.

 

[Parrot of Doom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ZF_transmissions

Might help. If you click the 'for light vehicles' automatic links, the only Mercedes Benz in there is the V-class/Vito.

Internet searches can be treacherous.

 

[eric242340]

OK then, show me something, anything, that says that ZF supply automatic transmisions for Mercedes passenger cars. Trucks, yes. Buses, yes. Plus a 5-speed manual for the '70s SL. But not an auto for mercedes cars. Read the history of ZF. No mention of it supplying MB with automatic transmissions. Steering gear, yes. Axles for MLs, yes. ZF even have a factory down the road from Mercedes in Alabama where the ML is built. Guess what? About the only things made by MB for the ML are engines and transmissions. ZF supply the axle assemblies.
None of the search results for "Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions" back up your claim. Show me the proof. I'm genuinely interested to know if my 722 transmission is ZF. You made the claim, so please substantiate it.

Have you done what I said and checked Yahoo.com search? Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions? I doubt it (but everyone else can) and then you will look a fool

 

[lakeside]

Have you done what I said and checked Yahoo.com search? Mercedes Benz ZF transmissions? I doubt it (but everyone else can) and then you will look a fool

Actually, yes I have. Just now. (It's a slow day today at the lakeside...)
And there is absolutely nothing at all to substatiate your claim. Nothing. Zilch. Nada.
So if it's there, (and I don't give a rat's whether you think I'll look like a fool - its an internet forum -duh!) then please show me.
The reality is that ZF and MB are in tight competition, along with Toyota/Lexus, to come up with the ultimate auto transmission. Clue: who's transmission does BMW use?
I think you're just trolling.

It's the middle of the night in China at the moment, by the way.

 

[Blobcat]

Is this the link your looking at from the yahoo search?

http://www.autoshoppingcenter.com/transmissions/

If so once you drill in the ZF details only appear to relate to BM

 

[lakeside]

Precisely. All the transmission specialists that come up have two sections, one for ZF with subsections for BMW, Jag, Volvo etc, and another for MB transmissions. In the 80s and early 90s (the period alluded to by 'eric'), ZF only made two longtitudinal 4-speed autos, the HP22, and HP 24. Neither bear any resemblance to the mercedes 722 box, which is a one-piece casting including the bell housing. The ZF boxes are completely different. Any one who really works with both BMW and Mercedes would know this. All Mercedes transmissions are made at the Unterturkheim plant. There is a list of ZF boxes and their applications here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_4HP22_transmission. Mercedes is conspicuously absent.
I speak good German, and have also searched German sites. They all confirm that Mercedes build their own transmissions.

 

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Give some one enough rope to hang themselves?

Why have you banned Eric, Blobcat when we were enjoying him making a fool of himself ?
Disapointed Bear

 

[Parrot of Doom]

Thank God* for that.













* may mean Mod.

 

[lakeside]

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[television]

 

[greenfingers]

Mr Eric seems to have shown plenty of enthusiasm, but has perhaps fallen short in terms of comprehension.

Does anyone remember the movie 'The man who fell to earth'?. David Bowie played the excellent but lost imaginator. He was on the path to a magnificent solution, but in the end it all went wrong :-(

I fear that Mr Eric's outcome is similarly fated!

 

[Stevie A]

I enjoyed reading Eric's posts. Between him and Malcolm, two of the best people on here.

 

[greenfingers]

Entertainment is one thing, but if you want actual solutions to real problems, then don't let someone's 'imagination' get in the way of facts.