Winter tyres or change car.

[Blobcat]

Agree, winter wheels are supposed to improve braking performance in poor conditions when it is cold. Seems foolish to have winter tyres on the rear and summer tyres on the front where most of the braking happens.

From what I read on the Michelin site, winter tyres are not as effective for braking above 7cso using them in summer is also not an optimal choice.

Should always have the best tyres for grip on the rear, irrespective of driven wheels.

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[rorywquin]

Should always have the best tyres for grip on the rear, irrespective of driven wheels.

Why?

 

[Blobcat]

Why?

Because of oversteer and understeer - one most drivers can deal with and the other takes you into the hedge

 

[Charliecloud]

E Class 4Matic - problem solved.

 

[Blobcat]

E Class 4Matic - problem solved.

It’s not though, there’s many a test with a 4x4 with summer tyres struggling compared to a 4x2 with winter tyres.
Had a neighbour with an X5 it wouldn’t go anywhere when the snow came down.

 

[DSK]

How urgent the need to drive seriously in treacherous conditions is, will vary from person to person. If you can work from home then do that. If you transport blood full time or deliver for amazon then get proper winters. If you’re a professional ice rally driver then get studded tyres…. There is as much choice choice in tyres as there is in cars. If I had to transport 10 people I could use a 2 seater coupe and ratchet strap 8 to the cars exterior or, over crowd a 5/7 seater or, get a minibus….

It’s basically like wearing trainers to go ice skating… you’ll get around the ice rink, some trainers may be slightly better, you may/may not enjoy it but everyone knows, you need ice skates to do it right.

Im my experience soft snow isn’t too bad but it’s the solid stuff beneath it and black ice that cause the most issues coupled with morons who think 4wd or clever electronics, either of which coupled with with bald tyres and lack of common sense, will save them as they drive around like it’s summer time and **** a brick when they are going to fast for the laws to physics to stop/turn safely.


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[Frontstep]

Most of us will know a R Rover owner that doesn't want to use it on anything other than sublimely smooth roads and at the front of car parks as it's a well-known fact they sap your ability to walk.

They also it seems can't handle the rougher roads, kerbs are ok though if approached head-on with a dash of yellow to guide you up.

They have a special cross-kerb tyre in the Michelin range for them.

You can have great difficulty getting suitable wheels and tyres for them when the cross kerbs run out then you have to fit them with large hoover belts and very large wide wheels to get about, well whilst they're running in between faults that is.

 

[Blobcat]

Most of us will know a R Rover owner that doesn't want to use it on anything other than sublimely smooth roads and at the front of car parks as it's a well-known fact they sap your ability to walk.

They also it seems can't handle the rougher roads, kerbs are ok though if approached head-on with a dash of yellow to guide you up.

They have a special cross-kerb tyre in the Michelin range for them.

You can have great difficulty getting suitable wheels and tyres for them when the cross kerbs run out then you have to fit them with large hoover belts and very large wide wheels to get about, well whilst they're running in between faults that is.

Range Rover took the terrain control out as owners couldn’t work out what to select…
Quite a few complained it wouldn’t work in winter conditions - they’d not selected snow on the selector…

 

[EmilysDad]

....s - they’d not selected snow on the selector…

I've got a 'snow' option on my ML It sets off in 2nd & uses a different shift pattern

 

[Frontstep]

Selecting the snow option on mine shuts the engine down and the dash display reads "Return to House"

 

[rorywquin]

I've got a 'snow' option on my ML It sets off in 2nd & uses a different shift pattern

Had that in my 1990’s BMWs.

 

[EmilysDad]

Has that in my 1990’s BMWs.

Likewise my Senators & Omega

 

[EmilysDad]

Selecting the snow option on mine shuts the engine down and the dash display reads "Return to House"

It's great playing in snow ...

 

[Frontstep]

"Bambi" doesn't like snow and ice.

The slightest incline and she gets marooned.

Steering becomes more wishful thinking and braking involves looking for runoffs and "snow traps" where deeper snow restricts movement.

Tis far better to take something else.

 

[Kev555]

winter Tyres and keep them as narrow as possible and you'll go anywhere ohh and a few blocks in the boot as extra weight helps the grip

 

[rorywquin]

winter Tyres and keep them as narrow as possible and you'll go anywhere ohh and a few blocks in the boot as extra weight helps the grip

Reminded me of my Renault R10 with bricks in the “frunk” - (rear engined car).

 

[Frontstep]

winter Tyres and keep them as narrow as possible and you'll go anywhere ohh and a few blocks in the boot as extra weight helps the grip

Like this ?

 

[sonic]

Agree, winter wheels are supposed to improve braking performance in poor conditions when it is cold. Seems foolish to have winter tyres on the rear and summer tyres on the front where most of the braking happens.

From what I read on the Michelin site, winter tyres are not as effective for braking above 7cso using them in summer is also not an optimal choice.

There is about an 80% gain using winter tyres under 7C, & a 5% loss using winter tyres on dry warm roads. Which is why I am on all season tyres now.
I do not support mixing tyres for the reasons mentioned above. Its also illegal in most of Europe.

 

[Rob.T]

winter Tyres and keep them as narrow as possible and you'll go anywhere ohh and a few blocks in the boot as extra weight helps the grip

Used to put blocks in the back of my Capri hundreds of years ago, well it seems that far back.

 

[JBell]

Had a neighbour with an X5 it wouldn’t go anywhere when the snow came down.

That will be down to the sheer size of the tyres, my Father has an X1 with 225 section tyres and had no real problems in the snow last time whereas another friend with a X5 with 305 section rears couldn't get off his drive.

Hence the reason Rally cars in snow Rallys use really thin tyres