Indeed! I had an A6 Avant S Line Black edition, we just furnished our Dutch sales manager with a Skoda Superb and the Superb is in my opinion a better car with Moore characterCraig's point about VAG commonality is the reason I'd never drive an Audi. Not because I think they are driven by ******s, or are not a good car, but simply that your 2.0 diesel A4 is no better than your 2.0 diesel Octavia.
Craig's point about VAG commonality is the reason I'd never drive an Audi. Not because I think they are driven by ******s, or are not a good car, but simply that your 2.0 diesel A4 is no better than your 2.0 diesel Octavia.
and yet, pretty much every other manufacturer was getting BETTER in the rust department during the same era. INCLUDING Fiat/AlfaAnd the rust in the late 90's wasn't because it was poor steel. It was ungalvanised body panels and a change of paint process and compound, due to environmentally friendly eco warriors sat in brussels.
that was done largely as the car was designed to be a cheap small alternative to the bigger fiesta (people were saying at the time that the fiesta was getting too big for their needs, widowed pensioners, student types etc) in the days when the 'citycars' as we know them were in their infancyThe last small car we had in the family was my wife’s Ford KA and I recall that as being quite crude in the way it was put together. The doors clanged horribly, rather than a satisfying thunk and materials used inside were just plain nasty.
careful Craig. you might upset someone on here as that link (if I'm reading it correctly) puts Ford above everyone except Kia, Porsche and Genesis (whoever they are) which would put them above AL the germans, the Swedish, all British (by origin at least), Japanese, in fact EVERYONE that were supposed to be better!!!!
I have spent the last 2 days up close and personal with my sons 2010 VW Polo 1.2 which he's left for me to sell on his behalf, having emigrated at the weekend. He's been using it for the past year as a commuting car, during which time it has been faultless, but received little or no attention from him, never mind washing or (heaven forbid) polishing!
Anyhow, I said I would fettle, thoroughly clean, polish and make it ready to sell for him and because of this, I've had the time to examine it in great detail. It pains me to admit this, it really does, especially on an MB forum but, horror of horrors, I actually think it is better designed and much better built than my '12 S204 C Class.
There are a lot of thoughtful little touches under the bonnet, particularly with clips and brackets holding various components in place. The doors close with a more solid and expensive sounding 'thunk' than my 204 and it is much better and more thickly painted in the little nooks and crannies around the door and tailgate openings. It's a lovely little car with no frills, just an innate quality feel about everything.
I'm truly shocked, not to say disappointed even. I honestly thought it wouldn't hold a candle to my MB, but it seems there is a change afoot in the normally accepted world order of things. How can this be???
careful Craig. you might upset someone on here as that link (if I'm reading it correctly) puts Ford above everyone except Kia, Porsche and Genesis (whoever they are) which would put them above AL the germans, the Swedish, all British (by origin at least), Japanese, in fact EVERYONE that were supposed to be better!!!!
And the rust in the late 90's wasn't because it was poor steel. It was ungalvanised body panels and a change of paint process and compound, due to environmentally friendly eco warriors sat in brussels.
why do i have no trouble believing that............
i love the french attitude to eu rules. go to the lunch, enjoy the wine,listen , leave ,ignore. then howl from the rooftops when others do the same.. BUT it does seem to work for them.Because it’s still going on to this day..? (It is btw).
careful Craig. you might upset someone on here as that link (if I'm reading it correctly) puts Ford above everyone except Kia, Porsche and Genesis (whoever they are) which would put them above AL the germans, the Swedish, all British (by origin at least), Japanese, in fact EVERYONE that were supposed to be better!!!!
So. These are the results for this year's UK Vehicle Dependability Study. The scoring is based on customer concerns per 100 vehicles over the first 3 years of ownership. As you can see it is somewhat different to the US survey.
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Germany has it again somewhat different. Note how the Industry Average incidents PP100 is higher than in the UK.
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The US survey is here. Again you can see the results are skewed in a totally different direction brand-wise. However again you'll notice that the industry average is significantly higher than the UK's.
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