DPF 2006 ML320

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Good morning All.

My wife is looking at buying a ML320 Diesel 3.0 Litre, but she does not do a lot of miles, so the dreaded DPF is a no no for her.

So with this in mind does anybody know if or when Mercedes started putting the DPF on the ML320.

I have heard that it was 2006 ish, but i have just contacted a seller with a 2006 for sale (not a 56 plate) and he said they all had them fitted. not sure if he knew really.

I do have a Vin number for one of the cars we are looking at, but that`s as far as i have got.

Could anybody help with this please.

Thank you.

Simon Finch
 

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Easy to visually check.
Look down the side of the engine on the drivers side. If there is a DPF it will be a large metal cylinder towards the rear. A bit difficult to see from the top but easy to feel for from underneath.
I'm not 100% certain but I don't believe a 2006 will have a DPF (Euro4) by default.
Post the VIN or reg number and we can check.

Petrol is a good call as it's ULEZ compliant but beware the balance shaft issue on the earlier M272 engine.
 

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my 2008 ML420 had a DPF but the 09 (58) ML320 didn’t
 
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Easy to visually check.
Look down the side of the engine on the drivers side. If there is a DPF it will be a large metal cylinder towards the rear. A bit difficult to see from the top but easy to feel for from underneath.
I'm not 100% certain but I don't believe a 2006 will have a DPF (Euro4) by default.
Post the VIN or reg number and we can check.

Petrol is a good call as it's ULEZ compliant but beware the balance shaft issue on the earlier M272 engine.
Hi.

Must admit, when it comes to cars I am a bit of a numbskull.

Finding a petrol one is really hard to find.

We went to have a look at a ML320 last Saturday, they checked and said it had a DPF after checking, this was a 2007 plate.

We are going to look at 4 more this weekend hopefully, but the garages did not know if they had a DPF fitted to them, 2 of them are quite far away, so it would be good to know if any of these had a DPF before we went to look a the cars.

Sent all the 4 VIN numbers to a Mercedes dealer, who said they have checked, but they cant see where any of these are fitted with a DPF.

They also replied with a copy and paste off the internet which stated that manufacturers did not start fitting DPF`s on cars until 2009, but the one we looked at was a 2007 and the garage said it had one fitted, so very confused now :-(

Below are the 4 VIN numbers of the cars we are hopefully going to look at this weekend, these are the ones i sent over to Mercedes to check.

Would you mind having a look at them for me please, 2 are on a 56 plate, 2 are on 2006 plate.

WDC1641222A111925

WDC1641222A065401

WDC1641222A142433

WDC1641222A140105

I could also get the VIN number for the one we went to loo kat on Saturday if you like, just in case they were wrong.

Hope you can help.

Thank you.

Simon.
 
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Hello and welcome

Buy a petrol if not doing many miles
Hi. yes i agree, but finding a petrol one is really hard.

Thank you.

Simon
 

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I ran a CLS with the same engine as the one in the ML for almost five years , it did the work / shop / gym run of no more than three miles and i never had an issue with the DPF , whether using V Power diesel for the duration was the reason i never had issues i dont know.

Black / sooty exhaust tips are normally a sign of no DPF , clean tips = DPF fitted.

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An optional fit from about 2004.
I don't look for the soot in the tailpipe any more as I have been mislead by this.

Find one with DPF and check the Co2 output, it will be higher than a non DPF if / when you find one.
what can screw that is different tyre sizes, as they might result in different Co2 ratings at new.
 

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Hi.

Must admit, when it comes to cars I am a bit of a numbskull.

Finding a petrol one is really hard to find.

We went to have a look at a ML320 last Saturday, they checked and said it had a DPF after checking, this was a 2007 plate.

We are going to look at 4 more this weekend hopefully, but the garages did not know if they had a DPF fitted to them, 2 of them are quite far away, so it would be good to know if any of these had a DPF before we went to look a the cars.

Sent all the 4 VIN numbers to a Mercedes dealer, who said they have checked, but they cant see where any of these are fitted with a DPF.

They also replied with a copy and paste off the internet which stated that manufacturers did not start fitting DPF`s on cars until 2009, but the one we looked at was a 2007 and the garage said it had one fitted, so very confused now :-(

Below are the 4 VIN numbers of the cars we are hopefully going to look at this weekend, these are the ones i sent over to Mercedes to check.

Would you mind having a look at them for me please, 2 are on a 56 plate, 2 are on 2006 plate.

WDC1641222A111925

WDC1641222A065401

WDC1641222A142433

WDC1641222A140105

I could also get the VIN number for the one we went to loo kat on Saturday if you like, just in case they were wrong.

Hope you can help.

Thank you.

Simon.
I had a 2004 C class.
The VIN still shows it has 'code 474' DPF. Your examples don't show this.

Also like all your examples it shows 'code 983' COC PAPER EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY W/O REG. CERT. PART II

My guess is that none of your 4 have DPF, but to contradict that MB were fitting them to the 642 engine as standard prior to the smaller engines. This was definitely for the 639, but as for other models I wouldn't want to say.

As it's a tall vehicle I would take a mat and torch, crawl under and look for the exhaust box (DPF) that has 2 metal pipes coming from it (these are the DP tapping's).
 
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I ran a CLS with the same engine as the one in the ML for almost five years , it did the work / shop / gym run of no more than three miles and i never had an issue with the DPF , whether using V Power diesel for the duration was the reason i never had issues i dont know.

Black / sooty exhaust tips are normally a sign of no DPF , clean tips = DPF fitted.

K
Thank you K.
I would love to take the chance as my wife has fell in love with the ML320.
When I said with the miles she does she just needs a Micra, her looks could have killed me :) (she likes a big car)
 
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The VIN still shows it has 'code 474' DPF. Your examples don't show this.

Also like all your examples it shows 'code 983' COC PAPER EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY W/O REG. CERT. PART II

My guess is that none of your 4 have DPF, but to contradict that MB were fitting them to the 642 engine as standard prior to the smaller engines. This was definitely for the 639, but as for other models I wouldn't want to say.

As it's a tall vehicle I would take a mat and torch, crawl under and look for the exhaust box (DPF) that has 2 metal pipes coming from it (these are the DP tapping's).
Sorry, being a bit thick here.

Does the VIN 474 mean it has a DPF fitted or not.

But with the 4 VIN numbers i have shown earlier don't show this code, so really should not have the DPF fitted to any of the 4 i sent over.

2 of the cars we are going to see are over 2 hours away, so don't really want to travel down there and look under the car and find out it has one fitted.

Also what does this mean, code 983' COC PAPER EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY W/O REG. CERT. PART II

Sorry to mither.

Thank you

Simon
 

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But with the 4 VIN numbers i have shown earlier don't show this code, so really should not have the DPF fitted to any of the 4 i sent over.

That's my take. 474 would mean a DPF 'is' definitely fitted.
Try these VIN's for comparison,

WDF63981523444730
WDB2032082F610696

You should be able to compare the co2 from the registrations.

MOT history can be v enlightening also.
 

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Sorry, being a bit thick here.

Does the VIN 474 mean it has a DPF fitted or not.

But with the 4 VIN numbers i have shown earlier don't show this code, so really should not have the DPF fitted to any of the 4 i sent over.

2 of the cars we are going to see are over 2 hours away, so don't really want to travel down there and look under the car and find out it has one fitted.

Also what does this mean, code 983' COC PAPER EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY W/O REG. CERT. PART II

Sorry to mither.

Thank you

Simon
474 means the DPF is fitted which would also make it euro 5, so not having that code present and it being classified as euro 4 does mean they don’t have a DPF,
 
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That's my take. 474 would mean a DPF 'is' definitely fitted.
Try these VIN's for comparison,

WDF63981523444730
WDB2032082F610696

You should be able to compare the co2 from the registrations.

MOT history can be v enlightening also.
Hi.

So all 4 of the VIN numbers i sent over earlier do not show the 474 code, so there should be no DPF really fitted on any of them those 4 cars.
 
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474 means the DPF is fitted which would also make it euro 5, so not having that code present and it being classified as euro 4 does mean they don’t have a DPF,
Sorry Matty.

So none of the 4 VIN codes below did not show the 474 code ?

WDC1641222A111925
WDC1641222A065401
WDC1641222A142433
WDC1641222A140105

Thank you

Simon
 
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Hi.

Thank you all for your help.

But sorry, I am completely lost here, so please reply in simple terms to a complete numpty like me :-(

To who ever was looking at the VIN numbers as below I supplied earlier today, did any of the following VIN numbers show the 474 code.

And if they didn't show the 474 code, does that mean there should not be a DPF fitted to any of them.

WDC1641222A111925

WDC1641222A065401

WDC1641222A142433

WDC1641222A140105

Thank you.

Simon
 

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There are 8 x ML500s for sale on Autotrader right now, for not much money. The mpg snd RFL on one of those realistically will be the same as a 320 CDI, bit more bhp and a bit less torque. But no pesky DPF to worry about and a far easier engine to service!
 

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So do any of the 4 codes I sent over today show the 474 code.
Are they all DPF free ?
If you download the MB Vin Decoder app from the Google Play store you can check any vehicle yourself.
 
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