How would you sort out this defective wheel job? Am I too fussy.

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Brief history wheels just had the usual bubbling around the hub caps.
Had the job done, and I said I wanted them uber glossy lacquered, for easy maintenance.

On the day they had trouble putting in the wheel nut. 1st fitter said there was paint in the way?? Note using genuine AMG wheel and genuine MB locking nut ... plus all worked fine before.
I then noticed a nasty black mark on this left front wheel.
They rubbed it with a microfible cloth with some creme coloured thick paste ... it looked like T Cut.

It looked OK, but as the wheels were not cleaned, and it was pelting with hail. So I assumed it was OK.

I then noticed they had scuffed one wheel nut recess on the right back wheel . I pointed this out to him and he initially said, well its your wheel locking nut. I said but its genuine MB , as is the wheel, and it worked before. Note because I have those MB stainless steel capped wheel bolts, I gave them a new skinny 17mm bihex socket (needed to prevent denting the stainless caps). He did look embarrassed when I slotted the socket on , demonstrating there was loads of space around the socket.
He said it was OK, as it hadn't gone through the powder coating. TBH I not sure if it had or not.
And he said they would touch it up.
I was expecting them to do a proper local repair. Nope just a wipe with the titanium colour brush not even a coat of clearcoat .
I made them write on the invoice, if I had proplems , that they would sort it. Plus he said I had a years warranty.

Back home I thought Christ, I could do better with an artist brush, and the trick of leaving it 29 mins and "flattening it with isopropyl alchlol and then adding a dab of clear coat.
So I rang them and asked for some touch up paint. No problem £25 for a touch up jar. Plus postage!!
Lets say they dropped that fast! Due to my reaction.

Looking today.
Here is the offending rear wheel as noticed and "repaired" on the day
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Being legal aware I photographed it before enhanced mending it myself, as discussed with wheel company.

But then noticed a small mark on the locking nut hole ... really just lacquer damage ?

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I then went on to photo the mark on the front wheel bolt hole, which was not noted on the invoice but verbally reported to them when requesting the touch up paint.
See below, there are a couple of gouges under the wheel locking nut
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OK I could live with that.
But then I noticed on the spoke of the front wheel.
What in my ignorance looks like overpainted dust specs.
It looks worse than in the photos. Probably why they didnt clean the wheels before presenting the finished job to me.
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There is also a faint line blow the dust speck??.
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Price paid £420 including £36 for straightening 3 slightly buckled wheels. Was that enough for a decent job?

I also now have to take off each wheel, and get the paint off the machined face of the inside of the wheel. Theynpainted them and not too well .. looked uneven.

WIM who do my alighment say it is essential I get this off to get a perfect reading, and also any paint will breakdown and with removing wheels etc can cause the wheel to come off! Plus the wheels wont or may not run true.... tyre wear and damage wheel bearings.
Apparently uneven paint, by even 1/2mm at the hub; can be quite a lot by the edge of the wheel. I see their point.

Maybe one could say I am being too fussy, but the whole point of the job was to get perfect waterproof paintwork so bubling doesnt start again.

I am tempted to just go back and say redo the 2 faulty wheels!
But will the colour match! Probably not?
Also as its one front and one back, as their donor wheels are 20" there is usually a difference in rolling radius going from 19" to 20"
Is this damaging to the differential?

So By now I am thinking, if I leave the 2 good wheels there and I will end up with even more damage!

Currently the faulty wheels are on different sides, that means taking off all the wheels, to hide a colour difference ... more potential damage. Yep thats my confidence level!

My other alternative is to send them the pictures and say ... think of a discount! And if they corrode due to these issues ... you agree to put in writing that you will sort me out.
I favour this route, as the collection and drive took 4.5 hours and £30 in petrol ... terrible London traffic.
Plus it saves hassle
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Am I being unreasonable.
 

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Not sure if you had them painted or powder coated, but at that price they should be 100%

Yes you are being fussy - no changes there (!) - and I'd normally say forget it but that is shoddy so as you had just been royally screwed I'd either go for a partial refund or they do the job again.
 

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^ with David on this- you paid a price for a quality job, that isn't
Shame the rest looks good
 
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^ with David on this- you paid a price for a quality job, that isn't
Shame the rest looks good
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Yes bar these issues it looks like a good job. Plenty of expensive cars Ferraris and Lambos there.
Maybe if you have a supercar rather than an oldish car they pay more attention to detail :-/
 

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Given the inconvenience of going back, swopping wheels etc etc I'd be inclined towards the discount route with a guarantee to redo if corrosion occurs....then forget about them hopefully for a while. After all after a few months use something else will happen sadly
 

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If you're resigned to living with it - bearing in mind that a few weeks down the line they may get scuffed anyway, as has been said - I would press them for a discount and then forget them once you'd got it.

If you're going to be continually miffed every time you look at the wheels, i would go back and insist they were done to a proper standard.

Can you see the Ferrari guys there accepting anything less? You have good grounds for complaint.

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You are too fussy sub (probably the fussiest person I've ever come across on forums) but that said it's not a great job they've done so if it will bother you take it back.
 

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I would not accept those myself. I pay £160 for a set inc removing and refitting tyres. That's for powdercoating and then laquer on top. I get a better job than that.
I'd go back.
 
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I give up having powder coating on wheels unless they need a total strip back and refurb,
its expensive compared to a mobile guy come out and strip down and spray job
as they are only going to get scuffed, kerbed or biffed going through width restrictions etc.

I pay @ £120-£150 depending on wheel diameter
its done at the workshop or home so no travelling expense.
 
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Given the inconvenience of going back, swopping wheels etc etc I'd be inclined towards the discount route with a guarantee to redo if corrosion occurs....then forget about them hopefully for a while. After all after a few months use something else will happen sadly
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Given the inconvenience of going back, swopping wheels etc etc I'd be inclined towards the discount route with a guarantee to redo if corrosion occurs....then forget about them hopefully for a while. After all after a few months use something else will happen sadly

If they agreed to a reasonable discount and a guarrantee to sort them if they went bad fast
Thats my preference.
 
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If you're resigned to living with it - bearing in mind that a few weeks down the line they may get scuffed anyway, as has been said - I would press them for a discount and then forget them once you'd got it.

If you're going to be continually miffed every time you look at the wheels, i would go back and insist they were done to a proper standard.

Can you see the Ferrari guys there accepting anything less? You have good grounds for complaint.

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Its not so bad I would be looki gat them and get miffed.
Pretty sure I can fix the recess flaws to a point it wouldnt bother me, and yeah I could live with the front wheel, as long as I knew if it bubbled up in 3 months they wouldnt screw me over.
I would just get an artists brush and put a tiny dot of silver on the dustspec and then a tiny dot of clear ontop ... reckon that should stop it bubbling up.
 
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You are too fussy sub (probably the fussiest person I've ever come across on forums) but that said it's not a great job they've done so if it will bother you take it back.
Hope they sort out a discount and guarrantee, prefer that ... fussy sure but really cant be bothered with this.
 
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I would not accept those myself. I pay £160 for a set inc removing and reporting tyres. That's for powdercoating and then lawyer on top. I get a better job than that.
I'd go back.
Wish I visited Oldham lol
 
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I give up having powder coating on wheels unless they need a total strip back and refurb,
its expensive compared to a mobile guy come out and strip down and spray job
as they are only going to get scuffed, kerbed or biffed going through width restrictions etc.

I pay @ £120-£150 depending on wheel diameter
its done at the workshop or home so no travelling expense.

Probably not a bad idea, guess it just bugs me a little, having gone the distance to do it properly.
And my gut feel is they will bitch like hell!
Just a feeling.
Like when I pointed out the problems. It should have been "look we are really sorry what would you like us to do, leave those 2 with us and we will redo them perfectly."
But just a hand brush touch up ....
 

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If they get funny about doing them again . Tell them you are retired and will spend a week in a clown suit greeting potential customers because you have nothing better to do :)
 

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I wouldn't say you are too fussy but probably like me at the top end of the scale in expecting a perfect job.

I don't trust tyre fitters with mounting/dismounting my wheels I have a spare set so that I can fit those while any work is being carried out i.e. new tyres fitted or refinishing, I've seen too many wheels abused by over tightening or as you experienced paintwork damage over the years so I remove/refit them as I have no trust that this will be done with care.

Personally I'd ask for compensation and move on especially as they are some distance from you, I certainly wouldn't waste any more time on them. The average car owner won't get down on their hands and knees to inspect the finish i.e. if they look ok when they get in or out of the car they are fine and this applies to most supercar owners as the car will be valeted
 
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