In our new Brexit world do we still need a monarchy

[davemercedes]

btw:

I looked around but couldn't find anything (?)...all I can see is current "what if" articles but I was sure HM Queen said or intimated at the time of Charles' investiture as POW that she would abdicate in favour of him "quite soon"?

 

[Frontstep]

Blimey you could have raised it to a pint and pie

 

[Craiglxviii]

Blimey you could have raised it to a pint and pie

That's the next stage, but pie n mushy peas. I'm classy.

 

[400ixl]

If Brexit is to succeed it can't be about pretending we still live in the 1950's

That is exactly what a good number of those who voted out want.

The Royals are seen very favourably by many nations across the globe and will be a help not a hindrance when it comes to putting in place some of the relationships a post EU United Kingdom will need.

 

[Alfie]

I am personally embarrassed to live in a Monarchy and b4 the smart ar5es suggest I go live in Russia, I would say that I am of these islands [unlike our Monarchy I am not German]

That you maybe although I do wonder if you are perhaps from a different time zone, something circa 45 years ago. Is there anything at all in this country, society/Life that you do like and agree with or do you just hate everyone and everything?

 

[prwales]

That you maybe although I do wonder if you are perhaps from a different time zone, something circa 45 years ago. Is there anything at all in this country, society/Life that you do like and agree with or do you just hate everyone and everything?

for someone who dislikes politics you spend a lot of time throwing out jibes, try addressing it with logic

Its time for a new anthem too

https://www.republic.org.uk/winning...39a71bde6490676896fc98ac134f3e_1486987307_168

 

[Yugguy]

Hmm. In the same breath the article writer attacks the current anthem for referencing a"God many no longer believe in" yet advocates I vow to thee which is a hymn about the kingdom of God, and Jerusalem, which is a hymn directly about Jesus Christ.

 

[prwales]

Hmm. In the same breath the article writer attacks the current anthem for referencing a"God many no longer believe in" yet advocates I vow to thee which is a hymn about the kingdom of God, and Jerusalem, which is a hymn directly about Jesus Christ.

it wouldn't be my choice, I'd go for Yellow Submarine

 

[SL63 Mark]

He will abdicate immediately in favour of William.

He can't abdicate. Look what happened the last time a monarch abdicated (Edward VIII) there was a massive constitutional crisis, and decades of navel gazing. Monarchs can't step down or retire, it's not a job, it's a vocation. They have to stay to the bitter end or until they go completely La La, look at George III. Nutty as a fruitcake, but still king. Charles isn't even slightly unwell. (as far as we know).

 

[SL63 Mark]

it wouldn't be my choice, I'd go for Yellow Submarine

Not the "internationale" ?

 

[Craiglxviii]

He can't abdicate. Look what happened the last time a monarch abdicated (Edward VIII) there was a massive constitutional crisis, and decades of navel gazing. Monarchs can't step down or retire, it's not a job, it's a vocation. They have to stay to the bitter end or until they go completely La La, look at George III. Nutty as a fruitcake, but still king. Charles isn't even slightly unwell. (as far as we know).

There is now Precedent for it, due to the Abdication Act having been passed.

The Royals have always kept a very close eye on their public image, here as well as around the Empire/ Commonwealth. Edward VIII abdicated precisely due to the image his relationship with Simpson portrayed to the public; Charles for various reasons has not achieved widespread popularity to be considered viable (e.g. if he acceded the throne, Australia would leave the Commonwealth) then I don't see William not being given the nod.

 

[Alfie]

for someone who dislikes politics you spend a lot of time throwing out jibes, try addressing it with logic

Its time for a new anthem too

https://www.republic.org.uk/winning...39a71bde6490676896fc98ac134f3e_1486987307_168

I dont dislike politics at all. Some aspects of it as we all do. I just genuinely cannot see anything that you seem happy with. Wasnt meant as a jibe at all, just a genuine question; What are you happy with?

 

[prwales]

I'm not happy in the winter as I can't get out and about on my bike much nor can I swim in the sea like I do in summer. I'm happily married and have been so for a long time, my kids and grandchildren are a blessing. However as I have often said I do not identify with our government nor our economic system.
What swings your boat Alfie, now that we are in facebook mode?

 

[prwales]

Established so far/or not

a] We need a new head of state [and formal constitution?]
b] We need a new anthem as the current one is not just awful but fundamental to [a]

c] Do we also need a new flag?

 

[JBell]

We need a new head of state [and formal constitution?]

No

b] We need a new anthem as the current one is not just awful but fundamental to [a]

No

Do we also need a new flag?

Depends, we have a Union Flag and each country I that union has their own flag so why would we need a new one.

The only change is if the Scots go and we can then remove the Saltire element from the Union Flag

 

[Craiglxviii]

Depends, we have a Union Flag and each country I that union has their own flag so why would we need a new one.

The only change is if the Scots go and we can then remove the Saltire element from the Union Flag

I must admit I've always preferred the pre-1740 Union flag... looks much less cluttered. But without the Saltire, how would one tell if the flag was mounted the right way up?

 

[JBell]

I must admit I've always preferred the pre-1740 Union flag... looks much less cluttered.

A very clean design

But without the Saltire, how would one tell if the flag was mounted the right way up?

Write TOP on the top ;-)

 

[LostKiwi]

No


No

No

No...

+1

 

[Craiglxviii]

Write TOP on the top ;-)

"THIS WAY UP"

 

[JBell]

"THIS WAY UP"

Simple isn't it