MTEC Discs & EBC Green Stuff Pads

[Craiglxviii]

If you have a keen nose, you can smell brakes if the overheated, I have used them in every condition possible and have never experienced anything. the other thing is I always paint my disc, if ever over heated the paint would be burnt, and mine are not ever discoloured ´.

There are many members on here that use and are very happy with them, they will not post on the subject for the wind up post on here in the past on this subject.

In the USA there are 4 firms that make ceramic pads, On the USA forums no where do you find the comments that are posted on here that do not add up to being bad pads, TMD the largest manufacture in the world and OE to Mercedes make the ceramic E pad.

To be fair in the testing that I've seen done, the big issue has been high frequency squeaking from an NVH sound standpoint and not degraded braking performance.

 

[star]

If you have a keen nose, you can smell brakes if the overheated, I have used them in every condition possible and have never experienced anything. the other thing is I always paint my disc, if ever over heated the paint would be burnt, and mine are not ever discoloured ´.

There are many members on here that use and are very happy with them, they will not post on the subject for the wind up post on here in the past on this subject.

In the USA there are 4 firms that make ceramic pads, On the USA forums no where do you find the comments that are posted on here that do not add up to being bad pads, TMD the largest manufacture in the world and OE to Mercedes make the ceramic E pad.

Yes I know what an overheated brake smells like, as I have said before about my experience with these pads, it could have been the same with oe but I haven't done the same trip with oe pads. Your happy with them but I have my reservations.

 

[star]

So what were the exact issues with the discs pads? How did you resolve.

I haven't done anything with them, its the O/h car and doesn't get used hard around here, it only showed on a couple of long descents through the pyrenees . So it doesn't show up.

I dont have a problem with non oe pads as long as you know what to expect, my race car uses yellows, crap when cold but fantastic when hot with the occasional squeal, I accept that. My other car has carbon ceramic discs, now that produces more dust that the red stuff but again not so good when cold. Now these red ones fitted to the SL with new discs, brake fluid change etc, I would have thought they would be as good as oe, if not better when pushed. Initially I thought fantastic, I see what everyone's on about, But after having them fade a couple of times, I'm not so sure. I glad other people have experienced this too and its not my imagination.

 

[television]

Yes I know what an overheated brake smells like, as I have said before about my experience with these pads, it could have been the same with oe but I haven't done the same trip with oe pads. Your happy with them but I have my reservations.

Well there we are, for the brakes to fade they must get very hot, the paint on mine has not discloured in 2½ years or 14k miles, and I do not hang around, driving to the max late at night. Its 4 miles all down hill into Lyme, very narrow and many bends and steep in places.

 

[star]

Well there we are, for the brakes to fade they must get very hot, the paint on mine has not discloured in 2½ years or 14k miles, and I do not hang around, driving to the max late at night. Its 4 miles all down hill into Lyme, very narrow and many bends and steep in places.

To be honest, I didn't stick my head out of the window and smell the air, it might have been nicer than the air in the car after nearly smacking someone. I have also braked from speed, no problem, just a long decent. Only my experience, you have yours. maybe down to different driving styles/roads.

How would you explain what I (and others) have experienced?

 

[television]

To be honest, I didn't stick my head out of the window and smell the air, it might have been nicer than the air in the car after nearly smacking someone. I have also braked from speed, no problem, just a long decent. Only my experience, you have yours. maybe down to different driving styles/roads.

How would you explain what I (and others) have experienced?

Its too subjective to continue this, there are as more that love them than those who do not.

As I said this subject does not go down well on here at all, there are 3 at the most that have had problems so they say. Add 15 cars that I have fitted them on for members on here, then the red ceramic win as they still have them.


I am out of the thread as it is now senseless

 

[star]

I just accept that some people love them, some do not. No one is either right or wrong. Just because you love them, doesn't make the other peoples experiences false . Out2.

 

[television]

So what were the exact issues with the discs pads? How did you resolve.

When fitting brake pads, they never just slide into place.

When fitting them I clean out the channels that the pad sits in, they must not be a tight fit, and if necessary I file the paint off so that they are a loose fit.

On the rear types or sliding shoe type where there are pins the the the shoe slide on, I clean and grease these pin to ensure that the shoe slide easily and the pad is not tight,


If the pads are a tight fit, they cannot back off, this will cause heat, a hard brake on top of this could over heat them to cause fade.

 

[bembo449]

are you sure its the pads at fault here ? ive had m-tec discs and didn't rate them over standard , mine were drilled and grooved

 

[Some guy on the internet]

Well there we are, for the brakes to fade they must get very hot, the paint on mine has not discloured in 2½ years or 14k miles, and I do not hang around, driving to the max late at night. Its 4 miles all down hill into Lyme, very narrow and many bends and steep in places.

Ok Walter.

Nothing reassures other road users more than an 80 something year old man driving 145mph late at night.

 

[LostKiwi]

Ok Walter.

Nothing reassures other road users more than an 80 something year old man driving 145mph late at night.

I'd feel more comfortable Malcolm doing it than some others I see on the roads!!!!

 

[television]

Ok Walter.

Nothing reassures other road users more than an 80 something year old man driving 145mph late at night.

Keep your nose out of it, you do not know me, you have never met me thank god, use your own words before you post knocking me.

 

[Some guy on the internet]

Give over TV, do you think

1) Anyone in their right mind believes you drive around at 145mph late at night, or,

2) That would be a reasonable thing to do at your age?

Stop with this fantasy now before you find yourself painted into another corner with the only way out a full scale strop.

 

[Naraic]

The other side bans football and politics. We are considering a ban on discussing brakes.!