The police and my complain to them about Mercedes-Benz retail uk

[Pappilo]

If its part of an ongoing investigation or could be, it is potentially dodgy given allegations being made.

Not only that, it could be defamation.

All I have seen OP post are the names of people he has come in contact with in the Met. If newspapers and the police are allowed to release names of people suspected and arrested for a crime, why cant a complainant post the names of public officials he believes havent done their jobs properly?

 

[Frontstep]

I believe this went to the high court as Robert stated, naming people involved maybe an offence.
Now if your qualified in Civil Law then I'll stand corrected.

A Court is a public place, so unless the Judge specifically orders otherwise you can talk about it all you like after the case finishes, as long as its an honest recollection of events.

 

[gizze]

I'm lost.

Who is your gripe with? Mercedes? Mondial? The Police?

All I got was...
Car broke down?
Mondial collected?
Damage of £6k and said you had done it?
You are saying that they did it driving it into the workshop?
They denied?
You took it to court and won?

And.....??

 

[Gary Hanson]

You may even have committed an offence.

Out of interest, what offence do you think might have been committed ?

 

[moob]

All I have seen OP post are the names of people he has come in contact with in the Met. If newspapers and the police are allowed to release names of people suspected and arrested for a crime, why cant a complainant post the names of public officials he believes havent done their jobs properly?

Because they use the word 'alleged' for one thing.

Blurting out that Mr Smith is incompetent at his job is not too clever.

Maybe one of more esteemed legal eagles would be kind enough to elucidate.

 

[robertjrt]

Oh ok, do enlighten me further

Well, after the trial MB wanted me to remove my car which I had not seen for years and it had no MOT.

I ask for an MOT and they declined so I booked it in and on the day the MOT was supposed to happen MB declined to undertake the MOT.

I also wanted an independent report on the condition of the car and to ensure that the repairs had been completed. MB declined.

I then issued two applications for Court Injunctions against MB. In the meanwhile MB informed me that the car had been through an MOT. MB informed me 28 after the MOT had taken place.

The first Injunction was to allow an inspection and second was for MB to produced the two reports from the recovery company. For some inexplicable
reason the two reports were not provided pre trial.

I was granted both injunctions by the Court with the added requirement that I remove my car after the inspection.

The car was in dreadful condition, the battery was boiling in the boot, air suspension collapsed, etc. so much for MB "Duty of Care" whilst my car was in their possession all those years.

It was removed from MB Chelsea's workshops by a transporter to the recovery peoples yard where it underwent another, the fifth, inspection. When the examiner turned on the ignition the warning DO NOT DRIVE appeared.

It was sold for scrap £1,500

 

[robertjrt]

I'm lost.

Who is your gripe with? Mercedes? Mondial? The Police?

All I got was...
Car broke down?
Mondial collected?
Damage of £6k and said you had done it?
You are saying that they did it driving it into the workshop?
They denied?
You took it to court and won?

And.....??

The essence of my complaint was that;

MB maintained from the very first correspondence that my car had arrived at their workshop in "an already broken down condition"

MB knew that I was not responsible for the damage they tried to charge me for as they had the recovery company's report.

MB forced me into long and very expensive litigation and only on the afternoon of the trial admitted that I was not responsible after the evidence had been heard.

I suffered a total loss on the value of the Car; £29,000.

 

[Carabosse]

I have no clear idea what this was about but it seems a bit odd to have involved the police in what seems to have been a purely civil matter and may have been sorted out much more quickly if treated as such from the outset.

 

[robertjrt]

If its part of an ongoing investigation or could be, it is potentially dodgy given allegations being made.

Not only that, it could be defamation.

There is no police investigation which is why it is only now I am bring the full facts to the forum.

"Defamation" only applies if what I have written is not true.

 

[Xtractorfan]

Robert can I just ask as to why you involved the police, do you believe that someone commited a criminal act ie. in the damage to your car.

 

[robertjrt]

I have no clear idea what this was about but it seems a bit odd to have involved the police in what seems to have been a purely civil matter and may have been sorted out much more quickly if treated as such from the outset.

It is a criminal offence to defraud somebody, especially if there is another party involved in which case it becomes Conspiracy to Defraud.

There is also the criminal offence of Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Justice and as Mr X of Mondial, the manager at MB Chelsea and the legal department of MB retail all knew of the existence of the recovery companies reports that makes it a criminal offence.

They were all present at the Court order arbitration held at Milton Keynes.

I have a print out from MB with a large part of the first report, verbatim, and my solicitor requested the report several times from MB,s legal department.

Had the reports been disclosed when they should have been there would have been no civil trial and I would not have suffered years of stress and a serious financial loss.

 

[robertjrt]

Robert can I just ask as to why you involved the police, do you believe that someone commited a criminal act ie. in the damage to your car.

I know criminal acts took place, the evidence is indisputable but, without the police willing to investigate and charge the culprits there is not much I can do about it, except publish my story as a warning to others.


If you do not have very deep pockets and top flight legal advice Mercedes-Benz will "bury you". MB now have their own in-house Barrister.

I posted on Mercedes-Benz Facebook page today;

"Mercedes-Benz Used Car Warranty is not worth the a paper it is printed on"

I am awaiting a response from them, after all, in my case its true.

 

[Xtractorfan]

I think the main problem you have is that the police have decided that your case isn't important enough for them to waste time investigating.
My feeling would be that you need to have a long chat with a criminal lawyer or barrister and then act on the information that they give you.
Have you ever consider having a word with someone like DOM from Dont get done get Dom, or even the BBC watchdog programme.. I do believe this would be your best way of getting some consolation or at least your views aired.

 

[robertjrt]

I think the main problem you have is that the police have decided that your case isn't important enough for them to waste time investigating.
My feeling would be that you need to have a long chat with a criminal lawyer or barrister and then act on the information that they give you.

I have an Advice Note for a specialist prosecution Barrister which states it is only the police that have the necessary powers to gather the evidence requires by the Crown Prosecution Service.

The police declined two Advice Notes from the CPS.

We are back to ex parte Blackburn again

 

[stevieb15]

Can you not launch a private criminal prosecution?

 

[Carabosse]

My own feeling is you may have wasted an awful lot of time and effort pursuing the criminal aspect. The main issue seems to have been who should pay for the damage.

That is a civil matter. The necessary evidence could one assumes have been presented to a civil court. If you have really wanted vengeance that could have been taken up as a criminal matter separately and later on.

 

[robertjrt]

My own feeling is you may have wasted an awful lot of time and effort pursuing the criminal aspect. The main issue seems to have been who should pay for the damage.

That is a civil matter. The necessary evidence could one assumes have been presented to a civil court. If you have really wanted vengeance that could have been taken up as a criminal matter separately and later on.

Vengeance is too strong a word, Justice for what MB put me through, remember I had done nothing wrong except purchase a used MB from MB Chelsea with a MB Warranty.

You are quite right in that this matter started out as a civil dispute, who should pay for the damage,it was the actions of MB during this dispute that made it a criminal matter as MB knew I had not caused the damage.

 

[robertjrt]

Can you not launch a private criminal prosecution?

Beyond my financial means, I am sorry to write.

 

[robertjrt]

I think the main problem you have is that the police have decided that your case isn't important enough for them to waste time investigating.

This is why Mercedes-Benz can get away with what they have done with impunity; Its a civil matter as far as they are concerned, but, when MB conduct goes from civil to criminal it is a matter for the police.

If the police had spent a fraction of the time investigating my complaint rather than trying to justify the "error" of a junior Officer this matter would have been decided before a Judge and Jury by now.

The Crown Prosecution Service asked the police for a copy of the trial transcript and "other" information so that a charging decision could be made and the police said NO; so where is the justice there?

 

[Carabosse]

You are quite right in that this matter started out as a civil dispute, who should pay for the damage,it was the actions of MB during this dispute that made it a criminal matter as MB knew I had not caused the damage.

Did the matter reach a civil court, such as the county court?