Tuning.

[LostKiwi]

Is there more magic beans in the new one?

More highly refined snake oil.

 

[V6Matty]

Sure it’s not fairy dust?

 

[Gazwould]

How can it be , in all fairness different cars have different delays , a 2011 Q5 2.0 tdi with S-tronic had a big delay where's a 2014 Q3 2.0 tdi S-tronic didn't and the ones with the biggest delay get the best results , to just plain say it doesn't work , the majority is out there .


It does not matter what technical paper is presented , it has cured the dangerous pulling out half second delay that many a Mercedes owner and other marquees experience , and for that alone it's worth it .

It effects even loads of high performance cars , it can even make a Lambo owner orgasm .

Again the nay sayers are welcome to drive my car .

 

[Blobcat]

It does not matter what technical paper is presented

And that is the crux of it, you chose to ignore the facts as presented in a non argumentative way because it doesn’t match your beliefs.

 

[Gazwould]

Technical paper blah , real world , real measure , + you have not tried .

Reminds me of 2 Stoke oil.. whereas I have my own real world data..

I read the reviews , bareback Joe , the technical papers , and You Tube .

I was sceptical but it's got a 30 day satisfaction guarantee , so no risk .

Couldn't be happier and want others to benefit , but here is a few unfortunate closed minds .

Come drive the car .

 

[davidsl500]

I find the throttle much more responsive when I wear my driving boots err I mean diving boots...

 

[Gazwould]

They'll be worth some money , thank god for the BCD !

 

[LostKiwi]

Technical paper blah , real world , real measure , + you have not tried .

Reminds me of 2 Stoke oil.. whereas I have my own real world data..

I read the reviews , bareback Joe , the technical papers , and You Tube .

I was sceptical but it's got a 30 day satisfaction guarantee , so no risk .

Couldn't be happier and want others to benefit , but here is a few unfortunate closed minds .

Come drive the car .

No ones doubting it sharpens throttle response - it's all the other claims of increased driveability, can't get the same result with a heavier right foot etc that we just can't take seriously, especially since every other component in the chain is still the same including the one that actually tells the throttle plate to open!

 

[Gazwould]

We have the reviews and we have the Sema display as per YouTube bids , Sema don't give false awards .

The throttle plate opens quicker , delay is gone , 1:1 relationship achieved just like the good old drive by cable days .


If the throttle plate does not open quicker how else do you explain my Mercedes no longer has a half second drive by wire electronic accelerator pedal delay ?

I remember somewhere a guy stripped back to reveal his throttle body and fitted said product and observed the plate opening quicker .

Please Alistair , open your mind , I'm not here to lie .

 

[Gazwould]

This is so similar to wheel & tyre calculators situation .

The calculators , calculate but what happens in the real world because of the 20% in variance by the manufacturers in tyre widths and aspect ratios produce a different result .

Please tell me what the overall diameter difference is between 205 55 16 and
235 45 17 is ?

Alistair , I'm sure you're an intelligent man , don't be closed , be much more open minded .

 

[LostKiwi]

Read what I said. No one doubts the throttle plate opens quicker, but it opens quicker by moving your foot faster too and that costs nothing.

I have 3 MBs and not one has a delay that can't be overcome with a more vigorous prod of the noise pedal. Ironically the one with the biggest delay is the 129 which has a mechanical linkage!

 

[Gazwould]

That's great you don't have a delay that can't be overcome by the prod of the throttle .

I had this particular junction with a slight incline to pull out of , now as Mercedes go the throttle becomes sensitive to incline and reverse , incline reverse requires silly amount of input . Not so much now .

But this particular junction I'd have to stab / prod the pedal to positively get it going to pull out with minimal delay , roughly half a second this was increased with this slight inclined junction , but it turns out as the throttle plate plays catch up because my input is excessive to get it going , it accelerates too much than intended after it pulls out .

And as I realised later this is why the E55 guy experienced a fuel saving .

I hadn't seen a mechanic I used for 9 years , he's an ex engineer , I briefly explained what I had fitted and he instantly got about the throttle plate input catch up overcompensation to the point he suggested it before I gave the information .

 

[Blobcat]

That's great you don't have a delay that can't be overcome by the prod of the throttle .

I had this particular junction with a slight incline to pull out of , now as Mercedes go the throttle becomes sensitive to incline and reverse , incline reverse requires silly amount of input . Not so much now .

But this particular junction I'd have to stab / prod the pedal to positively get it going to pull out with minimal delay , roughly half a second this was increased with this slight inclined junction , but it turns out as the throttle plate plays catch up because my input is excessive to get it going , it accelerates too much than intended after it pulls out .

And as I realised later this is why the E55 guy experienced a fuel saving .

I hadn't seen a mechanic I used for 9 years , he's an ex engineer , I briefly explained what I had fitted and he instantly got about the throttle plate input catch up overcompensation to the point he suggested it before I gave the information .

Sounds like you had a problem with your driving style, that you’ve alleviated with this throttle box.

You’re now suggesting it improves fuel economy as well. I expect it will cure rust next

 

[Gazwould]

That's right mate I can't drive for toffee , must of been pure luck I avoided the idiot that did a
U-turn in front of me a few days before the new year .

Couldn't drive the DB9 V12 Volante around the Prodrive circuit in Warrickshire nor the 458 around Thruxton either .

 

[V6Matty]

That's right mate I can't drive for toffee , must of been pure luck I avoided the idiot that did a
U-turn in front of me a few days before the new year .

Couldn't drive the DB9 V12 Volante around the Prodrive circuit in Warrickshire nor the 458 around Thruxton either .

I could see he was doing a u turn by the second shot you posted, I’d have started to slow and not had to swerve.
I can drive many cars around many tracks at their limits and the odd one beyond, it doesn’t mean I’m a good road driver it just means I can predict what my car and the road will do, being a good driver requires high awareness of others and predicting their movements/reactions

 

[Blobcat]

Joining the IAM and learning IPSGA would be a better use of the money... you could then take that to every car you drive.

I’m now seriously concerned about all the C Class diesel saloons and estates on the road, I never realised they were so dangerous without modification. What on Earth were Mercedes thinking. Please write to them to make them aware of their serious shortcomings for everyone’s sake.

 

[Gazwould]

Trouble is with wide angle lenses it looks further away than what it is and gives that goldfish bowl bending at the edges .

So the action I took was the only one available to me , believe me .

Next camera will have an extra lense to rectify the distortion .

And I wasn't driving the C Class !

 

[V6Matty]

That camera doesn’t distort as much as your making out, you can tell that by the road markings and the speed at which you were driving, there was enough time to slow down if you had been able to identify the hazard that was coming.

 

[Gazwould]

Well it does because the same company , same model camera made a distortionless version , lol .

 

[LostKiwi]

I'm curious. Why in frame 4 are you half on the hard shoulder?