New Engine Required?

[piestore]

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Hi

I think you may have a major problem, has a compresion test been done or cylinder leak test, My best guess is you had a Kat break up and due to the way the V6 breathes it has drawn abrasive from the Kat into the cyliders which has damaged the cylinder lining if this is the case the engine does need replacment

soz

 

[big x]

I'm wondering what the outcome of this thread was ? Has the cause of the catastrophic failure been pinpointed.I would of thought MB themselves would take an interest here as the car was a late model.
The cat breaking up and finding it's way into the bores may well be part of it.

adam

 

[tinytim]

Status report

Dear All,

Thanks for the continued interest in this one.

An update: MB did take an interest in this one. But they wanted a MB dealer to strip down the engine first to determine the cause of the problem - at my cost (approx 10 hours @ £90 + VAT) - before making a judgement call. Thereafter the dealer would apply to the factory for goodwill and then MB for goodwill. No one would commit to paying back anything, so I could be another grand out of pocket. So I took another approach and will find out today the outcome: there is a new law regarding Statutory Rights in this country which is specifically targetted at Trade Dealers selling used cars. The law states that after a car is purchased from a dealer, should there be a major fault with the vehicle within 6 months of purchasing it from them, the car is deemed 'not fit for purpose' and may be rejected - yes, returned to them for a full refund! I have used this law against the leasing company who sold me the car. This is news to them and they are running it past their very expensive lawyers. This has caused some consternation amongst them such that they have just paid for an independent inspection (closed engine) of the vehicle to ascertain that it is, in fact, broken. If their lawyer deems that I have a case, they will act according to their legal requirement; if not, I believe that they are going to offer a compromise. They are after all a very reputable company.

You may not have heard of this law as it is new, but I urge all car buyers with serious problems to research it on the Government websites (look under Statutory Rights) and apply it. By the way, the old 'well you get in contact with the warranty company' does not wash because any warranty adds to your rights as a consumer, not replaces them. And the other 'oh, you will have to refer that to the manufacturer/main dealer' does not apply either - it is the trader who sold the car to you who is responsible for fixing it.

I'll let you know how I get on, but the car really does need a new engine.

Regards,
G

 

[tinytim]

Interestingly, today the dealer offered to take away the car and have the engine re-built all at their cost. Apparently this was at the recommendation of their solicitor. Although I am negotiating about getting a full refund instead, this shows that the law in this case is strong and the British public need to be applying it.

Hopefully the car will be back on the road soon with basically a new engine and ancillary kit. Anyone want to buy it?

 

[jberks]

Well done. Good result. It is staggering how little we all know of our rights. For all our whinging, the power of the consumer is pretty good really.
If the dealer is going to completely overhaul the engine, Why sell it?

I might consider a small caveat though, even if at my own expense, hiring a motor examiner to check the engine once it's stripped down and have them document exactly what needs doing replacing, what can sensibly be overhauled and reused etc. Then get the dealer to certify that all this work will be done exactly as specified - no short cuts!

 

[OlafMaxwell]

I had a nightmare Ford Mondeo years ago Ford gave me the run around but then I tackled the leasing company. I never lease cars but for some reason I had taken a lease on the Mondeo. There are tremendous consumer rights against a leasing company, if for example you maintain the car in accordance with the terms of the lease, ie per manufacturers schedules and the car does not perform the leasing company has to pick up the tab or replace the car!! The leasing company were not long sorting out the problems, including getting rid of the car.

As for the original problem, I have heard of this happening before on quite a number of occasions. Bits of injectors finding their way into the engine. A good outcome, if you get this job done then you should ahve a good enough car but check everything very thoroughly afterwards. If you are to keep the Mobilo warranty it will have to be done at a MB dealer. Yuo will need the Mobilo for the inevitable rust repairs. When yuo get the car back pay particular attention to the air conditioning, brakes ABS/ESP unit.

 

[tinytim]

Chaps,

Managed to get a refund on the car (less £750) and the cheque is in the bank. The car was taken away yesterday by the trader who is going to get the LPG removed and the engine re-built before selling it on.

Just ordered a nice Saab 93 which I'm contract hiring.

Best Regards

 

[big x]

Chaps,

Managed to get a refund on the car (less £750) and the cheque is in the bank. The car was taken away yesterday by the trader who is going to get the LPG removed and the engine re-built before selling it on.

Just ordered a nice Saab 93 which I'm contract hiring.

Best Regards

LPG conversion ? You didn't mention that, I'm not surprised it failed TBH.

adam