New Mercedes C-class W205 problems, is your car fine ?

[benzw205]

New Mercedes C-class W205 problems, is your car fine ? Anything to repair or change ?


Hello,

I am looking for some feedbacks to know what early buying have to report about the new C-class W205 mercedes benz.

Is you car okay ?

Did change or repaired anything ?

And how much did you pay for the first service at 10000 kms ?

Thank you.

 

[GottleibDaimler]

New Mercedes C-class W205 problems, is your car fine ? Anything to repair or change ?


Hello,

I am looking for some feedbacks to know what early buying have to report about the new C-class W205 mercedes benz.

Is you car okay ?

Did change or repaired anything ?

And how much did you pay for the first service at 10000 kms ?

Thank you.

There are two Safety Recalls and an issue with the new Garmin satnav system since new but all is rectified under warranty.

The first service is at 15,500 miles, not 10,000 kilometers. It will cost £200-300.

 

[turbopete]

typical. renault fit nice easy to use tomtom satnav software ino their cars. mercedes opt for the less user friendly (in my experience of the standalone systems) Garmin.

 

[GottleibDaimler]

typical. renault fit nice easy to use tomtom satnav software ino their cars. mercedes opt for the less user friendly (in my experience of the standalone systems) Garmin.

Do you like Mercedes-Benz or their cars?

 

[benzw205]

Thank you.

How possible 15000 miles ?

The first service in Europe is at 10000 kms.

 

[GottleibDaimler]

Thank you.

How possible 15000 miles ?

The first service in Europe is at 10000 kms.

Are you sure? I think it's every 25000 kilometers.

 

[V6Matty]

may sound daft but at one time i thought Mercedes would do an inspection at 10k, so not actually a service just bring it in for any recall work and make sure everything is working as it should?

 

[turbopete]

Do you like Mercedes-Benz or their cars?

of course but they really dont think things through from a customer point of view very often, if at all, nowadays.

example 1. everyone else had 7 digit postcodes in their satnav system but mercedes stuck with 5 digits for much longer. why? it cant be that expensive if Ford etc had 7 digit postcodes.

example 2. im sure im not the only one that noticed the sales of the c class shoot up when the 204 was launched, and MB started to admit they actually made a manual gearbox. so all those people who had audis and BMWs purely because mercedes sisnt make a car that people genuinely wanted to own but werent told existed. i know of at least 1 dealership who refused to sell a customer a manual car on the basis that they wouldnt have an immediate buyer for it if it were part exchanged 3 years later.

and i could probably go on with dozens of things every other manufacturer offers but mercedes cant or wont. yes people want all the gadgets BUT why make them more complicated than necessary?

if you were to be 100% honest, would you pay near £1000 for the mercedes satnav, or £80 for something that can be programmed in half the time and does the job as well if not better?

i have to admit, you appear to have taken the dealership brainwashing and simply accepted it as gospel which is a shame as i like a good debate on things, as different opinions are good. it just seems that regardless of what public feedback is in the real world, on places like this and other forums, mercedes simply ignore it. rust being one issue. you say that the mobilio is a voluntary warranty ofrom the rust aspect. can you therefore tell me what the actual anti perforation WARRANTY duration is on a mercedes, irrespective of where its been serviced, as per block exemption rules? when i worked at ford it was 10 years and later ecars had it extended to 12 years, Nissan when i was there had just extended their anti perforation warranty to 10 years from 6. what is the situation on mercedes?

 

[whitenemesis]

Regarding the 5 digit post code, could be simply that they have only 5 in Germany?

But agree, it can't be that difficult or expensive to implement regional coding?

 

[C350Carl]

The problem with the 7 Digit postcode is licensing the database. Manufacturers get hammered quite a big fee to use it. That will be the only reason they held off.

What i don't get is why they won't release a firmware & map update for older cars. Anyone, and i do mean anyone, who says that it's not that simple is talking out their hoop. For example my Comand system could quite easily have a new firmware and map update. But Ze Fatherland say no.

VAG tried the same tactic for the RNS systems fitted to VW & Skoda cars. By 2008, due to listening to their customers, they relented and issued a firmware revision and updated maps in late 2008.

Mercedes do seem to have lost their way a bit against the other German Marques. Hopefully they will employ someone soon to bring them back on track.

 

[GottleibDaimler]

of course but they really dont think things through from a customer point of view very often, if at all, nowadays.

example 1. everyone else had 7 digit postcodes in their satnav system but mercedes stuck with 5 digits for much longer. why? it cant be that expensive if Ford etc had 7 digit postcodes.

I've got 5 digit and never found it an issue to be fair - it lets you choose from a list of roads so it's all good.

example 2. im sure im not the only one that noticed the sales of the c class shoot up when the 204 was launched, and MB started to admit they actually made a manual gearbox. so all those people who had audis and BMWs purely because mercedes sisnt make a car that people genuinely wanted to own but werent told existed. i know of at least 1 dealership who refused to sell a customer a manual car on the basis that they wouldnt have an immediate buyer for it if it were part exchanged 3 years later.

We don't mind selling manuals at all - but we VERY rarely do it. I think it's more likely that the manuals have been 'bought' by lease companies (which have proliferated since the 204 launch).

and i could probably go on with dozens of things every other manufacturer offers but mercedes cant or wont. yes people want all the gadgets BUT why make them more complicated than necessary?

if you were to be 100% honest, would you pay near £1000 for the mercedes satnav, or £80 for something that can be programmed in half the time and does the job as well if not better?

£1000 isn't just for the satnav tbf, and lots of people would rather have the integrated nav on the screen. Becker isn't as expensive as that, and neither is the new Garmin system. I see what you're saying though - TomToms and the like are excellent value now.

i have to admit, you appear to have taken the dealership brainwashing and simply accepted it as gospel which is a shame as i like a good debate on things, as different opinions are good. it just seems that regardless of what public feedback is in the real world, on places like this and other forums, mercedes simply ignore it. rust being one issue. you say that the mobilio is a voluntary warranty ofrom the rust aspect. can you therefore tell me what the actual anti perforation WARRANTY duration is on a mercedes, irrespective of where its been serviced, as per block exemption rules? when i worked at ford it was 10 years and later ecars had it extended to 12 years, Nissan when i was there had just extended their anti perforation warranty to 10 years from 6. what is the situation on mercedes?

I'm not brainwashed, I just think some people are unrelentingly negative, and I understand the reasoning for things a bit better. Don't get me wrong; as a dealer, I get frustrated with the manufacturer for certain things.

Bodywork warranty is 8 years.

 

[MBDevotee]

I've got 5 digit and never found it an issue to be fair - it lets you choose from a list of roads so it's all good.

No, it's not. When you have 7 digits like on a tomtom you can get very close to the house even without a number. With 5 on a road that can be 20 miles long it's totally and utterly useless - I live in a rural area and Merc satnav with 5 digits is pointless unless you are going to a city.

We don't mind selling manuals at all - but we VERY rarely do it. I think it's more likely that the manuals have been 'bought' by lease companies (which have proliferated since the 204 launch).

Good for you - Manual Mercedes.... 'taint natural so it isn't

£1000 isn't just for the satnav tbf, and lots of people would rather have the integrated nav on the screen. Becker isn't as expensive as that, and neither is the new Garmin system. I see what you're saying though - TomToms and the like are excellent value now.

What integrated nav? All the new Merc's have a very badly fitted iPad wannabe stuck on the front of the dash - £80 would be a fairer price for that these days....

Bodywork warranty is 8 years.

Just don't expect to be able to claim on it.....

......ever....

 

[GottleibDaimler]

Just don't expect to be able to claim on it.....

......ever....

That's b*****cks.

 

[turbopete]

Bodywork warranty is 8 years.

so, just so everyone is straight on this, if someone were to buy a brand new £100k S class, never get a service done with MB but be serviced correctly using genuine parts from day 1, the bodywork anti perforation warranty is 8 years

the same person does the same thing with a sub £10k fiesta, amd the bodywork warranty is 12 years?

not exactly confidence inspiring and doesnt really encourage people to go to MB to pay the premium for what is supposed to be among the top brands in motoring, if we are honest.

one thing i DO know though, is that if i ever find myself owning a sub 8 year old MB, i will be watching it like a HAWK for body defects, and had i known this 4 years ago, i would have instructed dad to have the 203 sorted out then too, but we live and learn.

and my negativity isnt really for negativity's sake, its more through sheer disappointment, when you consider what they were in the days of the 124, 201, 202, 129 etc in terms of build quality. then you look at now, auto gearboxes with electronics that fail (electroplates) engines with the timing chain at the gearbox end of the engine instead of the front, coming complete with single instead of duplex timing chains and having timing gears that seem to randomly self destruct, rust issues everywhere, and im sure we could go on all night, but i think you can get the picture.

i LOVE the way the mercs drive. i prefer the way they drive to the BMW's ive driven (not driven the latest 5 yet) BUT i did consider replacing the 203 with a Jaguar, but the X type lacks rear space, even more than the 203, and the bigger Jags dont offer a manual and, until an auto can be fitted from new, left untouched, abused by towing heavy loads almost daily (i grew up in a farming area) and be put in a gear I WANT WHEN I NEED IT (for snow etc) and survive it all for 2-300k miles, then i will consider one. so far even some 4x4s struggle, never mind saloon cars, hence ive yet to see a landrover defender with an auto box (especially one that is worked hard daily)