Reasons why I'm still banging on about 560sec and 300ce24

[wise0000]

Ok hands up here, I truly don't know what to offer for that 300ce24(143k) or the 560sec (77K) condition as before in my previous posts.
Is £1500 too much for the 300 ? Is £2000 too much for the C plate 560sec
I've read that sometimes if the car is grubby then £1500 for Sec more appropriate, but isn't that just a little more than the scrap value ?
really would appreciate a guide price.The 300 will need a service and a water pump, the Sec needs a new boot interior and relacement of rotten parcel shelf and Aircon repairing. And MB specialist reckons the 560sec won't be that much worse than 300ce on fuel. Hard to believe that.

 

[sooper coop]

why are you still beating yourself up ?

Forget both. They sound below par.

Have a look at autotrader and get something fresher that doesnt need doing - did you look at the answers you had before ?

 

[wise0000]

Well here are the reasons Sooper Couper, and sincere thanks for answering earlier posts to you and Pascal and others who took an interest:
I can't get around to see other cars and I'd rather be finishing my Screenplay than obssesively trawling e bay and Auto Trader websites, as they have become just another excuse not to write !
The guy who is selling them on behalf of his clients is an MB Speciallist I trust, however he is still trying to get the best price for his client.
I don't have £4-5k to spend on a decent example.
The 560sec has only 77k on it and with the right guidance I might pick it up with all the work done on it for £2500
The 300ce24 for a good deal less, (£1800?) but without some ideas from you more experienced people I am at sea.
Now if I had a comfortable £4 or £5k to sling at these bagatelles I wouldn't be asking these (what must seem to you seasoned Mercers) dumbo questions.
I really do appreciate your views, so just tell me what you would offer and I promise I won't ask about these two again. Is that equitable ?

 

[wise0000]

reasons why I'm still bangin on bout 560sec n 300ce24

Reasons why I'm still banging on about 560sec and 300ce24
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Well here are the reasons Sooper Couper, and sincere thanks for answering earlier posts to you and Pascal and others who took an interest:
I can't get around to see other cars and I'd rather be finishing my Screenplay than obssesively trawling e bay and Auto Trader websites, as they have become just another excuse not to write !
The guy who is selling them on behalf of his clients is an MB Speciallist I trust, however he is still trying to get the best price for his client.
I don't have £4-5k to spend on a decent example.
The 560sec has only 77k on it and with the right guidance I might pick it up with all the work done on it for £2500
The 300ce24 for a good deal less, (£1800?) but without some ideas from you more experienced people I am at sea.
Now if I had a comfortable £4 or £5k to sling at these bagatelles I wouldn't be asking these (what must seem to you seasoned Mercers) dumbo questions.
I really do appreciate your views, so just tell me what you would offer and I promise I won't ask about these two again. Is that equitable ?

 

[squealinneil]

The use of words like "bagatelles" is strictly forbidden on ANY car BB.
Please post a link to the ads for the cars so we can see what's what.

 

[grober]

Bottomless Pit Of Despond!

Your SEC has done only 4k miles a year and must have been garaged most of its life. SO WHY IS IT RUSTING?????????? The 300ce24 has done about 10k a year and has some mechanical work needed almost believable??????????? Your "specialist" knows for certain that these figures are genuine???????????? You're into screenplays then ask him "show me the money!!" THE PAPERWORK THAT PROVES WHAT HE SAYS service book invoices MOTS etc etc If he cant then walk away. You,ve got good advice from members on this forum take it or watch your hard earned money vanish into a "bottomless pit of despond " to quote another well known writer.

 

[pascal]

With respect Wise, This is the third thread you started on the exact same subject.

The advice you got was to decide what type of coupe you want, and only you can decide. You were also advised to stay away from both far from decent cars, and to look around for better examples.

If you want someone to recomend you buy one of these, you won't get it here.

Autotrader only takes a couple of mins to do a search of cars in your area. as you stated, the dealer is working for the seller, not you

PS: It is good forum etiqute to re-post original thread, rather than start new thread to bring up subject again.

 

[wise0000]

My apologies and "Bagatelle" withdrawn forthwith !

All points taken.
Pascal I am so unused to posting threads I wasn't sure how to repost original one.
Always difficult though when temporarily carless to get around to see stufff.
Consider the word "Bagatelle" well and truly withdrawn.
By the way the speciallist I use is Bill Schraeder in Billericay Essex. Does anyone know or use him ?

 

[OlafMaxwell]

Plenty of 'good' older Mercs around....try even Mercedes Enthusiast, condition is by far the most important at £4k, not age or mileage. A good car should last a reasonable period without needing major work. If you stick with a reliable mainstream, like the W124 but not the one oyu are looking at, you should get a good example. Any of the independents will be able to look after it and spares are generally ok too, either genuine, auto factor or parts specialists.

 

[wise0000]

Thanks Olaf but I don't have £4K to spend

Thank you.
However as I mentioned (probably a little unclearly) I don't have 4k to spend.
I have a maximum of about £2400 which of course means the areas you mention independent's or private sellers in Merc Enthusiast or Mercseller (The most expensive but very good stuff).
So that's why I'm grubbing around at the hinterland of Sec and CE ownership, and once you've driven an SEC its kind of hard to go back. Plus April beckons and if I don't spend my meagre profit the Government will.

 

[peterchurch]

Thank you.
However as I mentioned (probably a little unclearly) I don't have 4k to spend.
I have a maximum of about £2400 which of course means the areas you mention independent's or private sellers in Merc Enthusiast or Mercseller (The most expensive but very good stuff).
So that's why I'm grubbing around at the hinterland of Sec and CE ownership, and once you've driven an SEC its kind of hard to go back. Plus April beckons and if I don't spend my meagre profit the Government will.

Hi,
a few points hit home here... These cars might be cheap to buy but the parts are not! If your new pride and joy springs problems then you will be stuffed! The labour cost alone will write the car off for you.

Second one and heres the biggy
You state that you are spending "company profit" in which case this becomes a company car and you will be liable to tax on the BOOK NEW PRICE !!!!

I would stay out the game till you can afford a better car...

 

[sooper coop]

Peters right.

At the risk of being a sensible old git. when your buying this kind of Car you need really a reserve of £500 to make good. and thats not a lot.

A few tyres and a service and MOT will eat the £500. If your screenplays taking up too much time you'll have a great screen play and a crap merc.

Merc specialists shouldnt be selling cars that are not tip top. They know they would be letting themselves in for a world of pain, and hassle. Dealers are notoriously fussy as you should be.

£2400 buys you this...

PS
it took 2 mins. on autotrader.

Make Mercecedes....doh.

Model CE class

Miles Away National i know might be a trek. but its only once.

budget less than 3k. TRADE

no 1.
1989 MERCEDES-BENZ 300 CE, 86500 miles, blue, Auto, e/seats, all electric windows, full service history, sunroof, abs, good condition throughout. . . . . . £1900

no 2.
1992 MERCEDES-BENZ CE CLASS 300 CE-24 2dr Auto Coupe, 2 Doors, Automatic, 2 Door Coupe, Petrol, 105,000 miles, . Silver. Black 'Lux' Leather interior, ABS, New Tyres, 12months MOT, New Front Brakes, New Front Tyres, Alloy Wheels, CD 6 Disc with Blaupunkt
£2500

no3.
1988 E Reg MERCEDES-BENZ CE SERIES 300 CE Automatic, New Green of Croydon 2 Doors, Automatic, Coupe, Petrol, 80,000 miles, Gold, Central Locking, Front Electric Windows, Electric Sunroof, Electric Mirrors, ABS, Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Alarm, Immobiliser, Service . . . . (trade)
£2665

If buying yourself a car doesnt warrant this effort.

Buy a ford and sink back into the mainstream.

 

[squealinneil]

wise0000,
Buy a 190E.
They're durable, economical, reliable, MUCH better built than more modern Mercs, capable of 200,000 trouble free miles, comfortable, easy and cheap to get parts for and a pleasure to drive.
For your budget you can get a good one, whereas with the same money you're going to get a POS SEC or marginal 300CE24. The repair and maintenance costs on your preferred cars will be higher by a factor of 4 or 5.

 

[Tony E]

I've just bought a '91 560 SEC, 100K miles in excellent condition (some small bodywork attention but no rust in boot!) with a George Fraser thumbs-up, for £7,000. I am delighted with it but expect to spend about another £1,000 getting it to the standard I would like and it will probably need a new exhaust in a year or two at the most.

It took me six months to find this car and I saw quite a few really dodgy ones.

With this experience in mind I would say that your chances of finding a good condition, reliable 560 SEC for under £5,000 are pretty slim. Any less and you will probably find that it will cost a grand to get right and even after that you will be forever shelling out for repairs.

Don?t know anything about the 300ce24, but with a budget of about £2500 I?m with squealinneil, who I happen to know has good experience of quality 190Es at around this price.

 

[pascal]

Sounds about right Tony. And that's not too expensive for a good example.

I see IMS (south Croydon) have a good example with FSH and around the same milage. Same money also. If I was buying one, this would be the sort of car I'd have a look at.