General Election...June 8

[davemercedes]

Theresa May said 'on the record' no less than five times that there should be no snap election - it should wait until 2020.

And the strange stand-off with Ms Sturgeon continues - May told her that Brexit is far too important for diversions like another Scottish referendum - but now she calls a national referendum (oh sorry, election) so it must be all right.

This election is just a trick for further self promotion by a PM who campaigned to remain but did her first U-turn to get the "big" job.
- Why doesn't she just get on with that "red white and blue Brexit" or whatever claptrap description she's using this week?

Many MPs do not want the so-called "hard" Brexit (which frankly Mrs May appears to favour).
- Reports back in October suggested that the Finance sector alone would lose £38Bn and 75,000 jobs if they lose the right to freely sell their services across Europe, and the government stand to lose up to 10 billion pounds in tax revenue.
- That wasn't mentioned on the referendum was it?
- So is it "opposition" for them to say what they think is the best for the country?

btw:
Has anyone heard whether the required number of negotiators they were supposed to be trying to recruit have been found?

 

[triumphstag]

I have been thinking about Labours support of the election and have come up with a (conspiracy) theory.

Jezzer is convinced he has the backing of the public, based on the number of new labour party members that joined around the time of the leadership races in the labour party (even though a lot of them were probably conservative activists trying to get JC into the hot seat).
He knows that he is unlikely to last in the role of leader of the opposition until 2020. This his big opportunity to get elected - he believes that the public support him, so probably sees it as his destiny being fulfilled.

The rest of the labour party (the sane ones) can see that it is going to be a disaster for the party and they are likely to lose a number of seats, but see it as a way of getting rid of Corbyn and starting the rebuild process. Hoping it will be a total shoeing and he will resign (good luck with that!)
Once Corbyn goes, the toxic front bench will finally be eradicated as well and can crawl back under their rocks and Labour can start to rebuild their image and heal the party.

The real winners here (apart from the conservative party) might well be the LibDims - With Dim Tim banging on about reversing Brexit he is aiming for and likely to pick up a fair share of the remoaner vote. This will undoubtedly repair (in terms of seats and party size) a lot of the damage that Clegg did to the party, however it will be a single issue protest vote and will then disappear next time around.

 

[davemercedes]

Sorry... I think the Lib Dems have another five years to go before they get the slightest nibble.

 

[Craiglxviii]

Labour likely has the thick end of twenty years in the wilderness thanks to Mr. Corbin, even if he were to walk away now...

 

[flowrider]

Just wait for the Momentum leader to grab his chance at the leadership (whatever his name is).

Found it, Jon Lansman

 

[C350Carl]

Just wait for the Momentum leader to grab his chance at the leadership (whatever his name is).

Does he own Tesco Fuel?

 

[Craiglxviii]

Does he own Tesco Fuel?

No, that's the cousin of the bloke who runs the V Power party

 

[Xtractorfan]

Much more concerned about the number of families and children who are in poverty and have to go to bed each night without any form of nourishment.
Much more concerned about what is happening in the NHS, with 42,000 unfilled nursing posts in England alone. and add that 40%of european health workers are considering leaving the UK when we brexit if their right to stay here isn't guaranteed.

 

[C350Carl]

Pretty conclusive then.

 

[Yugguy]

I wonder who the 13 were?

 

[flowrider]

I wonder who the 13 were?

I heard one was Jeremy Corbyn.

 

[flowrider]

Much more concerned about the number of families and children who are in poverty and have to go to bed each night without any form of nourishment.
Much more concerned about what is happening in the NHS, with 42,000 unfilled nursing posts in England alone. and add that 40%of european health workers are considering leaving the UK when we brexit if their right to stay here isn't guaranteed.

I agree, this is a concern. Hopefully the non British workers will all be given permission to stay, poverty is an entirely differnet issue to tackle that no government in any country has been able to eradicate entirely.

 

[Craiglxviii]

SNP abstainers perhaps? They had initial instructions to abstain.

 

[LostKiwi]

MPs in very marginal seats?

 

[flowrider]

SNP abstainers perhaps? They had initial instructions to abstain.

Diane Abbott had a headache and missed the vote!

 

[Wighty]

I'm sure the press will name the 13 tomorrow

 

[Craiglxviii]

George Osborne has quit as an MP.

 

[Craiglxviii]

General Election 2017 | MPs who voted against the election

• Dennis Skinner (Lab)
• Ronnie Campbell (Lab)
• Ann Clwyd (Lab)
• Paul Farrelly (Lab)
• Jim Fitzpatrick (Lab)
• Lady Hermon (Independent)
• Clive Lewis (Lab)
• Fiona Mactaggart (Lab)
• Liz McInnes (Lab)
• Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP)
• Graham Stringer (Lab)
• Michelle Thomson (Independent)
• Natalie McGarry (Independent)

 

[M80]

I hadn't thought about it but can see Lib Dems gaining some ground from those that are so hateful of Brexit, in a vain hope of a reversing referendum.
I see a referendum to accept the final deal or not to be more likely, but only anounced post negotiations. The result could be a reversal of course.

It's interesting to see TM PM agreeing with many that she isn't good with ad lib responses, so denying opportunity for live debate embarrasment.

At least QT is going to be more interesting for a couple of months, although I hope Abbot is left without the chance to preach her cr*p.

 

[davemercedes]

Pretty conclusive then.