Breathalized last night

[coxyhog]

Or at least the wife was.

Got pulled over by the law last night a few hundred yards from the pub we'd been in for most of the night.
The missus was driving so the breath test was negative.
A good reminder that they do tend to step up that sort of thing the closer we get to Xmas.

 

[Alex M Grieve]

Or at least the wife was.

Got pulled over by the law last night a few hundred yards from the pub we'd been in for most of the night.
The missus was driving so the breath test was negative.
A good reminder that they do tend to step up that sort of thing the closer we get to Xmas.

Was this a random check, or did they give a reason for stopping you?

Are random checks legal?

 

[RobWheatley]

I think random checks are legal, plus if they saw them pull out of the pub car park that would be reason enough.

 

[dieselman]

Maybe it was the style of driving...

 

[amb67]

The Police should be allowed to stop anyone at any time, given the society we now all live in. Probably a controversial statement that will result in a few responses but the way I see it is, if you aren't doing anything wrong then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

 

[RobWheatley]

The Police should be allowed to stop anyone at any time, given the society we now all live in. Probably a controversial statement that will result in a few responses but the way I see it is, if you aren't doing anything wrong then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Even if you KNOW there is nothing wrong/illegal its funny how guilty you feel when pulled over or the police car is following

 

[Some guy on the internet]

The Police should be allowed to stop anyone at any time, given the society we now all live in. Probably a controversial statement that will result in a few responses but the way I see it is, if you aren't doing anything wrong then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

I don't share your blind faith & trust in the Police, or indeed other arms of the Establishment. Lots of people who weren't doing anything wrong have spent decades behind bars.

 

[Naraic]

After Hurricane Katrina, so much was lost that a year later there were still people in jail who had been sentenced to one week for J walking.

 

[dieselman]

Lots of people who weren't doing anything wrong have spent decades behind bars.

Or should that read lots of people that haven't been proven as doing anything wrong.

It would be interesting to find out how many people who were totally innocent and unconnected to a crime have been wrongfully convicted in say the last 20 years.

 

[st4]

Or should that read lots of people that haven't been proven as doing anything wrong.

It would be interesting to find out how many people who were totally innocent and unconnected to a crime have been wrongfully convicted in say the last 20 years.

Not an awful lot.

The police do not need a reason to pull you over, although a car on the road near a pub at closing team IMHO is reason enough.

Later on if that car was to be involved in an RTI and there were injuries and fatalities and it were known the police did not pull the car earlier if they had the chance I am sure this thread would be on a very different direction.

I see no issue with this form of policing.

 

[Some guy on the internet]

The police do not need a reason to pull you over, although a car on the road near a pub at closing team IMHO is reason enough.

Is it? In London or any other city or town they would be doing nothing but pulling over hundreds of cars driving past hundreds of pubs all day long.

They need a hell of a lot more than that to legitimately pull someone over IMHO.


DM, are we incarcerating people on the suspicion of a crime now? Should that be the case everyone is a policeman's whim away from being locked up.

 

[st4]

Is it? In London or any other city or town they would be doing nothing but pulling over hundreds of cars driving past hundreds of pubs all day long.

They need a hell of a lot more than that to legitimately pull someone over IMHO.


DM, are we incarcerating people on the suspicion of a crime now? Should that be the case everyone is a policeman's whim away from being locked up.

I can see the logic in what you say, however a policeman stopping you is not incarceration, no arrest etc. Its an enquiry in the same way a bobby may knock on your door if they want to ask you a question about something.

AFAIK they do not need a reason per se but for all we know the car weaved or something, I do not know.

 

[dieselman]

They need a hell of a lot more than that to legitimately pull someone over IMHO.

Is your opinion in agreement with the law?

DM, are we incarcerating people on the suspicion of a crime now?

As I said before.. No.
That situation is somewhat different to what you said before, you are now playing with words.

Lots of people who weren't doing anything wrong have spent decades behind bars.

 

[Pontoneer]

The Police should be allowed to stop anyone at any time, given the society we now all live in. Probably a controversial statement that will result in a few responses but the way I see it is, if you aren't doing anything wrong then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

The Police ARE allowed to stop any motorist , anywhere , at any time and does not need , or have to give a reason , for the stop .

 

[grober]

The "standard excuse" trotted out in the next 5 weeks in the good old days used to be checking for "Turkey rustlers" or "Christmas tree thieves". Quite a few major criminals have been caught as the result of routine roadside checks - Peter William Sutcliffe aka the Yorkshire Ripper comes to mind.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutcliffe

 

[teddycatkin]

What really gets to me is why are Hertfordshire police (being paid by us taxpayers) are allowed to sit outside a pub all night and then stop motorists just on the suspicion they may be over the limit--real crime seems too hard a task? or maybe catching criminals and law breakers is low priority as it never results in easy fines to top up the coffers.

 

[rovingHawk]

the way I see it is, if you aren't doing anything wrong then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

So you'll be happy about a dawn raid on your house IN CASE you have any stolen property in there?

I thought not.

RH

 

[Pontoneer]

So you'll be happy about a dawn raid on your house IN CASE you have any stolen property in there?

I thought not.

RH

The Americans have a charming phrase 'probable cause' which nicely sums up the justification or grounds required for such an operation to be lawful .

 

[Alex M Grieve]

The Americans have a charming phrase 'probable cause' which nicely sums up the justification or grounds required for such an operation to be lawful .

They have many such cute expressions. My favourite is "credible deniability".

Here , for example, you use someone else's gun to shoot somebody, and then assert that it could not have been you, as you don't have a gun!

 

[wemorgan]

Stopping a driver who has recently left a pub is hardly random.

Anyway, it's good she was all clear and the Police are on the look out for drunk motorists.