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While I was driving along the A71, there was a sudden 'noise' at the starboard rear, enough to make you duck. The car still seemed to be driving OK and I was going round the corner quite slowly as there was stuff rolling around in the back.

However, when the car was empty, I was getting a grinding noise on corners and when I got home and checked the back wheel, it was all over the place.

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The problem seems to be the driveshaft, the arrowed bit. How easy is this to remove and how can I get it fixed?

I already have the nut (35) at the end loosend (thanks to some scaffolding pole), I'll take off the inner end tomorrow, but how do I get the outer end off?



It seemed like it was only the caliper that was holding the wheel on, go knows what could have happend on the M73 slip road?

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are you sure it the drive shaft, sounds like the wheel bearing to me, very common on est cars.
 
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it could be, I have no idea what is going on with the arrowed bit.

I need get it out first to have a look. I guess the bit just inboard of the splined bit is a bearing. How do I get it out?
 

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And sent 9.35 am

Studied it.

Do I need to take off the wheel carrier in order to replace the bearing though?

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It looks like the bearing comes out from the outside. If I took the drive shaft off, and the backing plate the bearing should come out that way shouldn't it?

All I need to work out is what tool is needed to undo the inner drive shaft bolts. I have tried a T50 torex thing (halfords), but it doesn't look right.
 

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yes you do need to take the flange off. unless you have the special pullers, its easier to take the whole hub off and work on the bench/press but you have remove the h.brake shoes this way. you can leave the drive shaft connected to the diff tho. the flage is VERY tight. The back plates stays in place on the hub. the hardest part is removing the flange from the bearing.
 
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hmmm, that is going to make it a big job.

I have got everything to move except the flange though.

It is the wheel bearing. I moved the splined bit back and took up the slack in the drive shaft and the plastic cage fell out of the gap, in bits.
 
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Well its off.

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The next stage is getting the flange out, should I just take it to the dealers with my shoping list of bushes and bolts and get them to take it off?
 

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Well its off.

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The next stage is getting the flange out, should I just take it to the dealers with my shoping list of bushes and bolts and get them to take it off?


I think that is the only good way,, they have the tools that fit the bearing cage exactly, and a fly press
 

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Have you thought about buying that assembly complete with bearing secondhand ??????
 
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Have you thought about buying that assembly complete with bearing secondhand ??????

It's probably not the best option as a new bearing is not expensive. It would probably be more trouble trying to source a second hand unit and the bearing may have done a few miles as well.
 

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That bearing is dry and blue has got very hot!

I do my bearings with a large vice knock them out anyway you like and press them in with large 3/4 drive sockets,

It is donkey work you will need a scaff bar on the vice about 12" to give the extra leaverage and a strong vice!

Press is easier but will cost you! good luck..
 
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Actually, if you use a 1" socket set extension, it fits through the flange from the outside, you can then attach the correct size socket to knock the flange out, provided you can support the carrier somehow. The socket extension keeps it central.

I'm hoping the dealer won't be to hard on me. They have been good to me in the past. The parts guys seem to like a challenge.
 
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Bigtree, I meant 3/4" drive sockets there, sorry.

The bearing kit wasn't as cheap as I thought, £90! At least they will remove the old bearing for nothing. Well done Weirs.
 
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I picked up all the bits today and started to put things back together.

There is no way the bearing will fit on the flange. The diameter is about 3mm to tight.

The part I have is A 202 980 00 16

Does anybody know if this is the correct part for a 230TE?

Did the saloons have a different part number?
 

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Hi Turnipsock, The part number you mention is for the saloon, the estate uses a different bearing hence your problem. ecp has them in stock .
 
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Hi Turnipsock, The part number you mention is for the saloon, the estate uses a different bearing hence your problem. ecp has them in stock .

Thanks Georgerov, that is what I thought.

The parts guy had probs with my chassis number but thought he had worked it out. It's lucky I hadn't pressed it into the wheel carrier before I discovered this.

I'll phone them to make sure they have the right bit in stock before I make a trip over there.
 

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Nae bother mate, also if the wheel carrier is off the car shove it in the oven for half an hour, will make fitting the new bearing much easier!.
 


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