ABD? SBC ? What are they and why the awful warnings?

[davidwilson]

I've spent a lot of time reading back through past posts in this forum and a recurring theme (as well as the assorted sagas of soft top roofs!) is a bunch of alphabet soup - ABD and SBC.
I give in - what are they (or what were they? And why should they be avoided? (I know my A209 CLK doesn't have either - but I'm curious.....)

Specimen post: "ABD and SBC were just examples of good systems but dreaded repair costs" ;

Cheers
David

 

[Blobcat]

ABC - Active Body Control - high end suspension
SBC - Sensonic Brake Cotrol - fly by wire braking

 

[DSK]

Also I think it’s not a case of avoiding vehicles with these systems but rather, understanding their function and appreciating the associated maintenance costs.


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[mersum1es]

Both are quite great system when working...

SBC goodwill has extended, most of cases go 100% cover

 

[Botus]

Mercedes brought in new complex systems to try and resolve issues no one had -

ABC when new was better than cheap terrible suspension. Odd how RR and Jag never needed silliyness to make a car ride and drive well (its not, steel springs and dampers are much better). ABC can be troublesome and its very expensive to repair. 2 year fluid changes and regular use mostly sort these

SBC was just a mistake and as it only lasted 2 years its pretty clear Merc agree. SBC moved away from a vac pump tractors use for vac power assistance on brakes or the simple almost 100% reliable vac diaphragm many petrol cars still use 70 years after they invented it. As it was new electronic tech on a safety system they went silly and built in a time counter to throw messages that it needs repairing - without realising most german taxi boys had the light on 9 months after buying the car - so they just flashed another 400k uses before EOW warning comes up on the dash - USA class action lawsuit moved warranty on any brake components to 10 years as punishment, Europe they just stole owners money

you can reset the counter and replace the back up battery hiding under the washer bottle, and many of the lights go away for a few years... the nitrogen sphere needs swapping out, but no one bothers and its grumbly and is happily busy destroying the pressure pump...

 

[00slk]

And like all terrible cars and design faults in the past, these are the too have cars in the future, just look at square steering wheeled Allegros, or TR7's to name a few of the most horrible
Buy ABC and SBC now and reek the benefits in years to come

 

[SL63 Mark]

I've spent a lot of time reading back through past posts in this forum and a recurring theme (as well as the assorted sagas of soft top roofs!) is a bunch of alphabet soup - ABD and SBC.
I give in - what are they (or what were they? And why should they be avoided? (I know my A209 CLK doesn't have either - but I'm curious.....)

Specimen post: "ABD and SBC were just examples of good systems but dreaded repair costs" ;

Cheers
David

SBC = Sensotronic Brake Control
ABD = Not sure about this one. Automatic Bumper Drain ? Angry Binge Drinker ? I'll have a think.

 

[Botus]

oh - I was mistaken - it wasn't 10 year warranty in the USA

The warranty on the SBC Hydraulic Unit for MY 2003-2006 Model 211, MY 2006 Model 219, and Model Year 2003-2012 Model 230/231
was extended from the original 4 years/50,000 miles to 25 years with no mileage limitation.

What vehicles are covered?
The following vehicle model and model years are covered:
Model Model Years
E-Class 2003-2006
CLS-Class 2006
SL-Class 2003-2012
Maybach 2004-2012
SLR-Class 2005-2009

When will this warranty extension begin?
The warranty extension is scheduled to begin August 17, 2018.
When will customer letter mailing for this warranty extension begin?
The warranty extension customer notifications are scheduled to begin mailing on August 24, 2018

the 10 years was an earlier extension (handed out Nov 2006)