Adding 2 Stroke oil to diesel

[jazzenator]

Hi

One of my friends adds 2stroke oil to his diesel tank, everytime he fills up.
He drives a Landrover Freelander2 2.2 TD4. He has been using it since Jan this year and mentions that it makes a difference.

The link for the forum on the LR site is

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic878.html

There is an interesting comment at the end of the 1st page from a guy who runs a Merc 320 CDI.
What are the forum's thoughts on the matter?
Anyone else trying this?
Thanks

 

[FIBAMAN]

Maybe he just likes to burn more money

 

[rf065]

Anyone willing to try it & report back?

Russ

 

[MB TECH WARRINGTON]

Anyone willing to try it & report back?

Russ

ill try it in my 04 c220cdi with dpf and keep you informed
ill also try it in my astra van,

its worth a try, certainly will do no harm,

 

[Xtractorfan]

Will only cause the car to smoke, and may affect the cat on older cars, I kinda get the feeling that the oil companies and the car manufacturers have done lots of tests on diesel quality and car setup..but hey if it works for you..certainly in the motor trade we would add some oil to heating oil or similar when a trade car attempts to run on fresh air..

 

[MB TECH WARRINGTON]

Will only cause the car to smoke, and may affect the cat on older cars, I kinda get the feeling that the oil companies and the car manufacturers have done lots of tests on diesel quality and car setup..but hey if it works for you..certainly in the motor trade we would add some oil to heating oil or similar when a trade car attempts to run on fresh air..

there is a book about planned obsolesence in the motor industry, very interesting read, car manufacturers do this, keeps the workshops full. car manufacturers are run by number crunchers, actuaries.,,, yes tests are done but the companies now no longer want their cars to last more than 7-10 years imo, i know im setting up another subject here, but i feel its true,

 

[JEZ.S320L]

there is a book about planned obsolesence in the motor industry, very interesting read, car manufacturers do this, keeps the workshops full. car manufacturers are run by number crunchers, actuaries.,,, yes tests are done but the companies now no longer want their cars to last more than 7-10 years imo, i know im setting up another subject here, but i feel its true,

I can kind of go along with that - upto a point. Surely we are talking here about mass-produced runabouts for the masses, not low voulme, high-end vehicles?

 

[jayeastanglia]

this realy only works on a roatry pump.if you got a inline pump it wont make any diffrence..And if you got electric injectors (I think its called CDI)It wont lube anything but 2 stroke oil mixed with diesel will clean injectors But not usually the newer electric one very well...

 

[jberks]

MBTech please let us know how you go on. I have put some additive (can't remember the make but it was recommended as a good one) in the tank on my 270 after reports that it was good for the engine and improved economly and power. I think the idle is smoother (it was smooth anyway so its hard to tell) but I can't say economy is much different.

I'm on that forum now I have a freelander 2 but I hadn't seen that post.

 

[djweeble]

I read the whole of the above mentioned topic through, and then did a bit of further searching for more information on the subject. It looked like it was well worth doing, as long as you do it right.

So,

I've been running my 316CDi Sprinter on a 1:250 mix for just over a month. . . . .

My fuel consumption IS DEFINATELY DOWN, by about 12%. That's worth much more than the cost of the oil by itself

The van went for it's EU Control (Norwegian MOT) this morning, and the emissions were more than 70% down on the last readings

The mechanic at the test station asked me what work had been done on the engine to improve it like that, as they were better readings than he gets with most BRAND NEW vehicles. He couldn't believe it when I told him about the 2 stroke oil, he's now going to try it for himself.

The engine noise is quite a bit lower. Though I can't provide any figures to prove it, I'm going by the radio volume in the van.
At 100 KmH, I used to play most of my music (MP3's normalised to 98%) at a level shown as 40 on the volume control, any lower and it became difficult to hear, below 20, it was literally drowned out by road and engine noise combined.
NOW, I play most of the stuff at about 30, but I can still hear it quite clearly below 20. The girlfriend too has commented on how much quieter it is now, we can talk nomally on the motorway, without raising our voices to be heard.

Power wise, this is nice just what a Sprinter is renowned for, it now goes like sh!t off a shovel, it's difficult to explain in any sort of figures, but it definitely accelerates and responds much better than before I tried 2 stroke oil.

I think I'm on to a winner here

 

[David Nock]

I run a rotary as a 2nd car and I run a 2 stroke premixed with petrol in that, mainly as insurance against tip seal failure. Millers castor based KB 2T.
So I've got plenty in the garage but I think I'd need a lot of convincing before putting it in the CLK diesel. The turbo might actually like it if there's any carry - over but, for one thing, won't the lamda sensor object after a while? And what does the ECU say about it. It really is a democracy these days, where the management system and the driver get 1 vote each!
Having said that, the link is very convincing, says that the 2 stroke will homologate across the diesel in the tank.........Hmmm I must think 'on't

 

[popuptoaster]

I can kind of go along with that - upto a point. Surely we are talking here about mass-produced runabouts for the masses, not low voulme, high-end vehicles?

Dont agree with that at all, cars last MUCH longer these days than they ever used to, a 10 year old 100000 mile Ford Cortina was a rusty heap of doo doo, just waiting to fall apart or break down in the rain, a 10 year old 100000 mile Mondeo has got at least the same again in it these days.

 

[psmart]

I'll certainly give this a try, Liqui Moly is here in all garages so will see what happens.

 

[djweeble]

Just make sure though guys,

ONLY use LOW ASH MINERAL based oil, under no circumstances use a synthetic based one.

 

[megah0]

Giving this a go, picked up a litre of motul two stroke JASO FC rated oil for £6.30 from a local motorbike shop

Will report back.

 

[rf065]

Just make sure though guys,

ONLY use LOW ASH MINERAL based oil, under no circumstances use a synthetic based one.

Any particular reason?
I was under the impression that synthetic should not be used as it cost more, not because it would cause any damage, have I got that wrong?

Russ

 

[turbopete]

hmm wonder if itll shut the injectors up im my 210 E300 TD? maybe ill give it a go. cant see it harming anything! let me know how it goes megah0 please

 

[Derry Man]

I have used engine oil in my cdi for 7 years a good job before that I burnt out 2 sets of heater plugs

 

[GEORGEROV]

For additives substitute the word "snakeoil" . If an engine isn't running right it's not because of the lack of an additive!, but an underlying problem that the "snakeoil" is masking with wishful thinking!.

 

[rf065]

For additives substitute the word "snakeoil" . If an engine isn't running right it's not because of the lack of an additive!, but an underlying problem that the "snakeoil" is masking with wishful thinking!.

I don't think anyone has said their engine isn't running right.
If that was the case we would use a mechanic not an additive.

Russ