Bleeding Brakes On CLK W208

[mmmadman]

Hi All

I have bought some goodridge hoses for my CLK and was just wondering if there are any special requirments for bleeding the brake system on this particular model !

I have heard elsewhere about valves needing to be activated when bleeding etc, due to the ABS/BAS system is this correct ?

Can I just treat it as any other car with ABS that I have swapped the brake hoses and bled the system in the conventional way ?

Many thanks.............

 

[television]

Hi All

I have bought some goodridge hoses for my CLK and was just wondering if there are any special requirments for bleeding the brake system on this particular model !

I have heard elsewhere about valves needing to be activated when bleeding etc, due to the ABS/BAS system is this correct ?

Can I just treat it as any other car with ABS that I have swapped the brake hoses and bled the system in the conventional way ?

Many thanks.............

Do it the normal way, ESP is electronic, not hydraulic, garages use power fillers.

do it in the normall way and bleed the first one again.

Malcolm

 

[c15htn]

Hi.
With this abs/bas stuff in mind I'm due to change a single front caliper on our clk. Do i need to do anything clever or will clamped pipe and gentle pedal pushing bleed on the single wheel do it?

Thanks in advance
Jim

 

[television]

Clamp the pipe is all I do, then just bleed that corner

 

[turbopete]

if you are really worried about the pump etc being bled, you can always bleed the brakes the normal way bt with the engine running. although this is unnecessary in over 99% of cases

 

[turbopete]

Clamp the pipe is all I do, then just bleed that corner

as long as the master cylinder doesnt drain, theres no neccessary reason to even do that, although it makes sure the reservoir CANT drain

 

[c15htn]

Thanks gents - never too sure how 'modern' therefore unhelpful this car is, so it's best to check!

 

[turbopete]

208 is pretty 'old skool' when it comes to things like this!

 

[television]

On the last one that I changed, I did not bother to clamp the pipe, I just screwed the new one on quickly, the pipe on it own only drips, it does not run out.

 

[c15htn]

On the last one that I changed, I did not bother to clamp the pipe, I just screwed the new one on quickly, the pipe on it own only drips, it does not run out.

I'm not quite that brave or quick enough! I'll probably twist the pipe to hell if i hurry

J

 

[c15htn]

208 is pretty 'old skool' when it comes to things like this!

You never know though - glad to have an old 'Un

 

[turbopete]

You never know though - glad to have an old 'Un

true. sometimes its a case of the less electricals there are, the better!

it sometimes baffles me how we survived for so long without traction control, stability control, ABS, etc.

 

[television]

true. sometimes its a case of the less electricals there are, the better!

it sometimes baffles me how we survived for so long without traction control, stability control, ABS, etc.

Back in those days there were not so many cars on the roads, even the tyres are twice as good as they were in the 90's

 

[turbopete]

Back in those days there were not so many cars on the roads, even the tyres are twice as good as they were in the 90's

very true Malcolm. i do wonder though, looking back at older cars, how much of the electronic stuff is actually necessary, and how much we could have got around to the same route another, simpler, more reliable way.

 

[television]

very true Malcolm. i do wonder though, looking back at older cars, how much of the electronic stuff is actually necessary, and how much we could have got around to the same route another, simpler, more reliable way.

I have managed through my whole life without a mobile phone, I use it once or twice a year, the average person could not last 1 day without one, and folk no longer wash their clothes or themselves in a tin bath.

 

[turbopete]

true, but then years ago we had phone boxes on every street corner and our mother/wife would usually carry out laundry duties whilst everyone else was at work/school. whilst (from a person living alone's point of view particularly) i can appreciate the usefulness of electronics, i do wonder if, in cars especially, things have gone too far.
my first car, for example, had 4 fuses. some cars have nearly that many fuse BOXES now!

 

[television]

true, but then years ago we had phone boxes on every street corner and our mother/wife would usually carry out laundry duties whilst everyone else was at work/school. whilst (from a person living alone's point of view particularly) i can appreciate the usefulness of electronics, i do wonder if, in cars especially, things have gone too far.
my first car, for example, had 4 fuses. some cars have nearly that many fuse BOXES now!

Electronic devices are much cheaper to build than mechanical, plus you can upgrade electronics Pete.

 

[turbopete]

Electronic devices are much cheaper to build than mechanical, plus you can upgrade electronics Pete.

thats true. but i am still not convinced theyre as reliable as a mechanical solution, where possible. the diesel engine being a prime example. take an old mechanical engine like a 124 with no electronics at all. as long as there was compression, fuel and air, they would run and run and run. even underwater (with the intake and exhaust appropriately routed) they would still keep running. the point is issues with them were virtually unheard of, and simple when they DID occur. same cant be said nowadays.
likewise with petrol engines. your own CL for example has had the need for a replacement CPS at relatively nominal mileage, and as we know the CPS is a common issue. but how often did a distributor give a problem? VERY rarely in my own experience at least. and thats the thing. cheaper, yes. upgradeable yes. but are they reliable, i personally dont think so. and for some companies, like MB for example, reliability is EXACTLY what they need. after all, its pointless having a £100k S class sitting on your drive to carry 4 people around, when a 1990 ford sierra also sits on the drive waiting to carry 4 people, and the difference could be the sierra starts, the S wont!

 

[television]

thats true. but i am still not convinced theyre as reliable as a mechanical solution, where possible. the diesel engine being a prime example. take an old mechanical engine like a 124 with no electronics at all. as long as there was compression, fuel and air, they would run and run and run. even underwater (with the intake and exhaust appropriately routed) they would still keep running. the point is issues with them were virtually unheard of, and simple when they DID occur. same cant be said nowadays.
likewise with petrol engines. your own CL for example has had the need for a replacement CPS at relatively nominal mileage, and as we know the CPS is a common issue. but how often did a distributor give a problem? VERY rarely in my own experience at least. and thats the thing. cheaper, yes. upgradeable yes. but are they reliable, i personally dont think so. and for some companies, like MB for example, reliability is EXACTLY what they need. after all, its pointless having a £100k S class sitting on your drive to carry 4 people around, when a 1990 ford sierra also sits on the drive waiting to carry 4 people, and the difference could be the sierra starts, the S wont!

My early SL has always got me home, my CL has always got me home, Calums car did not get him home.

 

[c15htn]

A small point that crossed my mind, shortly after my nearly son in law spun his bmw.
I had a drive and found it to be distinctly lacking in the handling department and as it was a low end model had no electronics to help - he is left with a very tail happy, neutral handling car, so no idea where the limit is.
The previous bmw of the same spec was designed to 'handle' due to its design, not its electronics.

I think what I'm trying to say is that it seems a 'box' (bas, abs, traction ctrl etc) had replace sound vehicle design and if you disable all of the gadgets a modern saloon struggles to go around corners in bad weather unless it is treated like an Austin Cambridge!

Just my 2p worth as I've gone from unassisted fast cars to overassisted modern cars and back again and I'm astounded at how much control the boxes have these days! When the ESR package died on my 2013 Renault it was like driving a forklift on ice!

J