changed wheel and bolts have gone through braking system

[potter70]

changed wheel didnt realise needed to use different bolts. so went to drive handbake dropped. got taken to a garage to be told need whole brake system because bolts went into it. going to cost £700 to repair. Never heard of using different bolts when changing a wheel!! any ideas on how true this is and would it cost this much. its my sisters car its a a class think 100 those small ones that look like a smart car sorry for being so dumb.
any help

 

[television]

Hello and welcome though bad news,, The correct bolts are in with the tool kit, and a few have done the same thing.

Re the cost,,who has given this quote

 

[potter70]

a local garage in my area. they got the quote from a mercedes dealer and said they would charge £80 labour the rest is for the actual system and of course plus vat. thanks for the welcome.

 

[Blobcat]

Hi & Welcome, You could try the insurance route however it is well documented in the owners manual and in the tool kit. The wheel bolts should even be fitted to the spare and have to be removed before fitting to the car. Having said that Mercedes can now use the same bolts for the alloys and the spare, previously like a lot of manufacturers they issued shorter bolts for the steel spare wheel.

 

[television]

I would be inclined to have another quote,, it depends on what need to be replaced, I cannot see where this high cost comes from, it is unlikely to have damaged the shoes, maybe some of the mechanism is bent

Its the top picture in the lnk

http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...500716.502&CT=F&cat=66A&SID=42&SGR=045&SGN=02

 

[colechelle]

seen this so many times now malc, hub, shoes, spring kit and of course labour!!

 

[potter70]

Thanks for all your replies.
Its the whole system, handbrake dropped,all brakes jammed just because of changing wheel. dosent seem a good system to not use same bolts. i have changed my wheel before no probs on a vauxhall

 

[colechelle]

sorry to say, but its not a vauxhall!!! diff cars have diff rules!! your not the first and wont be the last!!!

 

[Ellsy Tanners]

Where abouts are you located, we may be able to recommend a good indie

 

[Xtractorfan]

Yea and its not always women and nincompoops who do it.. Ive seen mechanics do it, thing is they can normally rectify the situation

 

[wireman]

You dont say which model but £700 sounds ludicrous, at most an hour per side and the shoes, springs and actuator are not that dear. Usualy its only the return and retaining springs that get chewed up.

If you dont have the short bolts it is possible on some models to fit the long bolts and steel spare on the front hub (there is nothing behind the flange to catch) then the rear can have an alloy.

Tip, when you change a wheel always spin the wheel by hand whilst the car is off the ground, if it wont spin dont drive it.

 

[television]

You dont say which model but £700 sounds ludicrous, at most an hour per side and the shoes, springs and actuator are not that dear. Usualy its only the return and retaining springs that get chewed up.

If you dont have the short bolts it is possible on some models to fit the long bolts and steel spare on the front hub (there is nothing behind the flange to catch) then the rear can have an alloy.

Tip, when you change a wheel always spin the wheel by hand whilst the car is off the ground, if it wont spin dont drive it.

You are like me and feel that the price is stupid for only one side ???

 

[MissyD]

Hi, (BigAsotonUk borrowing MissyD's PC).
I would like to see a breakdown of the estimated bill, as this seems astronomical, unless of course it has done the wheel hub in.

 

[colechelle]

Andy, your borrowing missyd,s pc??????????????

 

[Ellsy Tanners]

RE using long bolts on the front


That is not possible i am afraid, The longer bolts have a none threaded shank, which when screwed through the hub, destroys the thread then the hub is destroyed. The safe bet is to check if your spare requires the short bolts, and if you dont have them buy a set asap.

 

[wireman]

Thanks for that correction, however the longer bolts on my old 201 did fit the steel spare onto the front without fouling the threads, they were from a non MB wheel set.

From recollection these were setscrews and not bolts, i.e. their threads went all the way to the head without a parrallel portion.

 

[recycledjuvenile]

I don ot understand this. you undid bolts, took a wheel out and then put in another wheel with different bolts to tighten it? what happened to the one you took out?

 

[television]

I don ot understand this. you undid bolts, took a wheel out and then put in another wheel with different bolts to tighten it? what happened to the one you took out?

The alloy wheels use longer bolts than the early steel spare wheels, and the shorter bolts are in the toolkit, not everyone sees them and puts them in but are about 12mm too long.

Spare wheels are now alli to overcome this problem

 

[recycledjuvenile]

oh thanks. but when i put on my spare steel wheels i just use the alloy wheel bolts. but i have never changed the rear wheels though . only the front.
i have four bolts in the toolkits and i have never used them either

 

[television]

oh thanks. but when i put on my spare steel wheels i just use the alloy wheel bolts. but i have never changed the rear wheels though . only the front.
i have four bolts in the toolkits and i have never used them either

Provided the bolts are threaded all the way up then no harm on the front (see ellsy tanners post)