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Everything about cyclists is the definition of hypocritical!
Despicable to the core and hated worldwide, this is not a UK thing by any means.
Please remember who was came first ;)

There are a lot of inconsiderate pr**ks when they get behind the wheel of a car or on a bike.
I'm pretty sure if you went to Amsterdam or Beijing you would be in a minority.
 

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It now needs a law bringing out to stop cyclists overtaking on the left hand side ... and also all cycles to have mot test to ensure that all bikes are road worthy. .
 

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I think that there's bad people whether in cars or on bicycles. I ride a bicycle and drive a car. I'm always conscious of the fact that when overtaking a bicycle I give as much room as possible, if only because a pothole of dropped drain cover could see them under my car.

What I despair of are those cyclists that seem to think that the highway code doesn't apply to them and so ignore traffic lights and road signs (one way streets are for cars only right?).

It's not just a matter of who has the right of way, but don't they realise how much they are endangering themselves? I don't understand the logic in cycling in the dark, without lights and wearing dark clothing or squeezing up the inside of large vehicles where they're difficult for the driver to see. Saying that I see car drivers and motorcyclists doing the same on a daily basis.

As a cyclist I'm well aware that in the event of a crash it'll be me that comes off worst, hence stay visible, use lights and reflective clothing, cycle away from the kerb as it makes you more visible and gives you some room for manoeuvre for those vehicle drivers that insist on not pulling out to pass.

I do think though that if there's a cycle lane then a cyclist must use it, as is the law in The Netherlands. I also think that they should bring back the cycle proficiency classes in schools so that people learn from an early age of the dangers of road use and an understanding of the highway code.
 

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I think that there's bad people whether in cars or on bicycles. I ride a bicycle and drive a car. I'm always conscious of the fact that when overtaking a bicycle I give as much room as possible, if only because a pothole of dropped drain cover could see them under my car.

What I despair of are those cyclists that seem to think that the highway code doesn't apply to them and so ignore traffic lights and road signs (one way streets are for cars only right?).

It's not just a matter of who has the right of way, but don't they realise how much they are endangering themselves? I don't understand the logic in cycling in the dark, without lights and wearing dark clothing or squeezing up the inside of large vehicles where they're difficult for the driver to see. Saying that I see car drivers and motorcyclists doing the same on a daily basis.

As a cyclist I'm well aware that in the event of a crash it'll be me that comes off worst, hence stay visible, use lights and reflective clothing, cycle away from the kerb as it makes you more visible and gives you some room for manoeuvre for those vehicle drivers that insist on not pulling out to pass.

I do think though that if there's a cycle lane then a cyclist must use it, as is the law in The Netherlands. I also think that they should bring back the cycle proficiency classes in schools so that people learn from an early age of the dangers of road use and an understanding of the highway code.
There is "bike-ability" in primary schools which includes some on road riding - they don't get the metal triangular badge though :(
 

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What I despair of are those cyclists that seem to think that the highway code doesn't apply to them and so ignore traffic lights and road signs (one way streets are for cars only right?).
When cycling, predominantly in London, I do despair of how bad the behaviour is of some cyclists.
If I see someone do something particularly bad I do let them know how their behaviour reflects on all cyclists as some people are unable to accept that those people are acting independently and that we are not all the same.

BTW - All one way street in the City of London are only one-way for cars and this is spreading out in London ;)
 

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Despite some questionable instances, probably more so in built up areas, I do still believe that on the whole we are a considered bunch.

I was happy to have my recent yellow box junction contravention appeal due to a cyclist 'cutting me up' and pootling through a red traffic light, upheld. A carriage of justice in the end albeit a very long, slow, painful and stressful process.... So I hope this careful consideration and application of the updated hgwy code continues.
 

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A note of caution here, if your spleen-venting comments on cyclists were to be made available after an incident involving one it ain't going to help.
 

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Not that old chestnut. All taxpayers pay for roads :D
ah THAT old chestnut. if ALL taxpayers pay for the roads, why do we have to pay an annual tax for our cars, tax on the insurance premium, tax on fuel, VAT on fuel AND on the fuel tax, VAT on parts we buy for our vehicles, VAT on our VEHICLES? we still pay road tax. the only difference is that now its called Vehicle Excise Duty. the name has stuck. just like almost universally in the UK a vacuum cleaner is called a Hoover. even though most arent. and if you really want to be pedantic, a 'motor vehicle' means that its a vehicle with an electric motor, so being pedantic, an engine isnt a motor so almost every 'motor vehicle' traffic law would be unenforcable in the UK to most vehicle drivers.
 

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Is it really an issue though? All drivers have to treat cyclists as if they are another vehicle so when overtaking any cyclist, it should be the same as overtaking another vehicle - see rule 163
and yet cyclists dont have to do likewise when, for example, passing parked vehicles? then wonder why there is the occasional incident of a disabled driver opening their car door and the cyclist being hit by the door.
 

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Please remember who was came first ;)

There are a lot of inconsiderate pr**ks when they get behind the wheel of a car or on a bike.
I'm pretty sure if you went to Amsterdam or Beijing you would be in a minority.
and if the UK had remained like that cyclists would still be riding on, at BEST, cobbled streets. these lovely Tarmac surfaces you ride on now are all thanks to the extra taxes vehicle owners pay over and above what everyone else pays. regardless of whether you also have a car at home or not. if everyone wants to be treated equal on the roads, then all the extra taxes drivers pay should be abolished and the lost revenue added to what ALL taxpayers have to pay.
 

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Please remember who was came first ;)

There are a lot of inconsiderate pr**ks when they get behind the wheel of a car or on a bike.
I'm pretty sure if you went to Amsterdam or Beijing you would be in a minority.
Having lived in The Netherlands for 5 years, I can tell you that the cyclists there are awful. They will run you over if you walk on a cycle path. Fortunately there is an abundance of cycle paths and so very little interaction with cars. They also tend to follow the rules.
 

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I drive buses for a living in Sheffield, if I was to give the the metre and a half space they are now entitled too I would be totally on the wrong side of the road, driving towards oncoming traffic, its not feasible to wait until its "safe" to pass as the roads are not wide enough to do that, not only that they undertake you squeezing through the tiniest of gaps that if you left them they would say your driving dangerously.
They want to ride on the roads then they should take a test, follow the same rules as other road users, pay road tax and have fully comprehensive insurance.

Yes I hate cyclists.
Like you Tony i drives buses in Brighton on south coast for 21 years ,was a cyclist for years as well as a driver,was always careful when on a bike,but down here its total anachy when it comes to cyclists, undertaking buses on the inside even though there are notices on the back telling them not too! weaving in an out of traffic,passing inbetween passing buses and holding on to them to get a lift too!
Best one but most dangerous is when you pulling into a stop and they still pass on inside and then hurl abuse at you as if its your fault!.....really! After a bit of tonque lashing from me they ride off very quietly,i admit not all cyclists are like this but it is a real hazard when theses morons ride about with total inpunity going through red lights,pedestrian crossing, zebra crossings, pedestrian areas where it clearly states no cycling.
Remember folks ive cycled for years and well aware of the dangers but these self imposed cycle muppets need to understand that if they do something really stupid on the road then majority of the time they will come off worse,if everyone was careful and respect each others space and ride with care then it will be much better for every road user, and do not get me started on those E scooters! Thats another total ball game of total muppetry!! .....enough...rant over!
 
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I think that there's bad people whether in cars or on bicycles. I ride a bicycle and drive a car. I'm always conscious of the fact that when overtaking a bicycle I give as much room as possible, if only because a pothole of dropped drain cover could see them under my car.

What I despair of are those cyclists that seem to think that the highway code doesn't apply to them and so ignore traffic lights and road signs (one way streets are for cars only right?).

It's not just a matter of who has the right of way, but don't they realise how much they are endangering themselves? I don't understand the logic in cycling in the dark, without lights and wearing dark clothing or squeezing up the inside of large vehicles where they're difficult for the driver to see. Saying that I see car drivers and motorcyclists doing the same on a daily basis.

As a cyclist I'm well aware that in the event of a crash it'll be me that comes off worst, hence stay visible, use lights and reflective clothing, cycle away from the kerb as it makes you more visible and gives you some room for manoeuvre for those vehicle drivers that insist on not pulling out to pass.

I do think though that if there's a cycle lane then a cyclist must use it, as is the law in The Netherlands. I also think that they should bring back the cycle proficiency classes in schools so that people learn from an early age of the dangers of road use and an understanding of the highway code.
Blue signs are compulsory - but the police seem to have forgotten that
Stupidly flashing lights are dangerous, distracting and illegal - but the police seem to have forgotten that
Stupidly bright lights everywhere - especially flashing bright ones on their helmets, actually make cyclist more vulnerable as no one can see whats going on

My motto is to go as fast as is safely practicable - without inconveniencing any other road user
Most fitting the acronym in the Title have the exact opposite approach - how many people can we inconvenience and terrorise
 
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