Cyclists Unnoticed National Terrorist Squad

[Botus]

the roads where paid for x fold over by "motorists", if these pepole want to ride with contempt for others and expect privileges others aren't allowed they should purchase their own land and build their own places to ride - not drum up support from idiots in government trying to secretly imprison us ALL

 

[Kev555]

the roads where paid for x fold over by "motorists", if these pepole want to ride with contempt for others and expect privileges others aren't allowed they should purchase their own land and build their own places to ride - not drum up support from idiots in government trying to secretly imprison us ALL

I am one of them motorists too like many other cyclists. Seems to me some are being elitist here about their rights on the road. Well seen updated traffic laws were needed.

 

[Gazwould]

 

[AnthonyUK]

the roads where paid for x fold over by "motorists", if these pepole want to ride with contempt for others and expect privileges others aren't allowed they should purchase their own land and build their own places to ride - not drum up support from idiots in government trying to secretly imprison us ALL

Not that old chestnut. All taxpayers pay for roads

 

[rf065]

Not that old chestnut. All taxpayers pay for roads

But only cyclists think they own it.

 

[AnthonyUK]

But only cyclists think they own it.

You have read this thread right

 

[curious]

This thread reeks of gammon.

So many posts appear to criticise cyclists for not moving over to allow a car to squeeze past. You're not supposed to squeeze past. Leaving 1.5m means you need to wait until there's a gap in the oncoming traffic. Good.

Cyclists have always been allowed to cycle two abreast.

Plenty of cyclists have taken tests to be on the road. More than enough motor vehicle drivers have never taken a test and are on the roads, (and not just those whose got a licence through grandad rules). Someone who took a driving test, once, several decades ago is hardly in a powerful position to start dictating to others.

Road tax! Really, are you really that ignorant? Funding for roads as been out of general taxation since 1937. Were you paying excise duty back then? To follow your argument anyone who doesn't pay general taxation shouldn't be allowed to use the roads.

Why should they be required to have fully comprehensive insurance, you're not? Insurance or not, it doesn't alter liability in an incident.

Follow the same rules as other road users? Different classes of road users have different rules, including cyclists. Read the highway code, it's in there.

Racing on the highway is illegal for motor vehicles, not cyclists.

Cycle lanes, whilst they might have good intentions are generally more poorly maintained than the highway. The cyclist has just as much right to be on the road as you.

This whole thread seems to be from posters' perceptions of being held up on a journey by a cyclist. You think you're being held up for hours but in reality it makes no difference to your journey time. By the time you've overtaken the cyclist and rushed on to then sit on the back of the car you were previously on the back of...

If you can't see that or, you're not competent enough to pass a cyclist safely perhaps it's you who shouldn't be on the road.

 

[rf065]

This whole thread seems to be from posters' perceptions of being held up on a journey by a cyclist. You think you're being held up for hours but in reality it makes no difference to your journey time. By the time you've overtaken the cyclist and rushed on to then sit on the back of the car you were previously on the back of...

If you can't see that or, you're not competent enough to pass a cyclist safely perhaps it's you who shouldn't be on the road.

Can you not see the pollution caused by all the cars that have to slow to a crawl behind one cyclist on a country road, and then have to wait for a gap and accelerate past them? And the cyclist will boldly state that he's saving the planet!

 

[EmilysDad]

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Cyclists have always been allowed to cycle two abreast.

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However, the highway code states that you can't ride more than two abreast, and you can't do it when on narrow roads or when cycling around bends.

though it might have been just updated

 

[AnthonyUK]

Can you not see the pollution caused by all the cars that have to slow to a crawl behind one cyclist on a country road, and then have to wait for a gap and accelerate past them? And the cyclist will boldly state that he's saving the planet!

You maybe want to make it more obvious when being sarcastic (/s) or humourous otherwise it could look like you are a total moron

 

[Tony Dyson]

Old Rule 66 states;
“You should never cycle more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads.”

New rule coming into force on Sunday if passed this week;

"You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders. Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so."

So not a great deal will change on Sunday at all, just the opportunity for more biased interpretation of the guidance by the two groups of contenders for the same space! Just take the last statement for example.

“Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping)”

A clear a concise statement with an example that needs no further clarity. Then...

“when you feel it is safe to let them do so.” Really! So it’s a joint decision? may as well give it to a committee.

Cyclists will never feel safe competing with automobiles for the same space so they will continue riding two abreast when they clearly shouldn’t be, just because they feel safer in doing so. Automobile drivers will continue to cut cyclists up because they will continue to ride two abreast where they shouldn’t, according to the guidance in the highway code before and after Sunday if the changes are passed. It will be interesting to read the full changes when they appear after Sunday as some of the guidance is only advisory and not mandatory!

 

[monty1]

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id be more than happy to be held up by this cyclist

 

[AnthonyUK]

Is it really an issue though? All drivers have to treat cyclists as if they are another vehicle so when overtaking any cyclist, it should be the same as overtaking another vehicle - see rule 163

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

Interesting thread but the real hazards are horse riders (unpredictable beasts) and electric scooter riders (now the genie is out of the bottle). I was amazed to see 7 youths in a convoy at twilight on our village roads there was a smidgen of common sense though the guy that was elected to ride rearguard had a rear light - you couldn’t make this up absolute madness and I pity the poor sod who runs into them

 

[rorywquin]

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It is not PC to group people by race, sex, religion etc so why is it deemed acceptable?

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Usually race, sex religion etc are not a choice - you cannot help who you are. Cycling is a choice!

IMO what irks most drivers is the arrogance, sense of entitlement and lack of self preservation that (most) cyclists seems to exhibit. Far too many ignore the road rules and damage cars with impunity, yet they have helmet cams to report bad drivers......hypocrites.

 

[rorywquin]

Sadly part of the reason its deemed necessary to have insurance when biking because theres so many assholes behind the wheel who think its perfectly legit to squeeze past you at 60+ at less than a foot from you. Some of you guys should try it sometime, it can make the hairs stand on your neck to say the least.

I always give cyclists a wide berth - but it is pretty frustrating being stuck behind cyclists struggling up a hill on narrow road or just holding you up on a narrow road for miles on end because they are too darn selfish to move over and let the stream of cars stuck behind them get past. I rarely come across a “considerate to motorists” cyclist.

Perhaps cyclists need to have a think about why they are so unpopular with motorists.

 

[EmilysDad]

..... or just holding you up on a narrow road for miles on end because they are too darn selfish to move over and let the stream of cars stuck behind them get past. I rarely come across a “considerate to motorists” cyclist.

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Exactly that a year or 3 back driving into Fort William ..... The road is narrow & the large HGV had to wait behind cyclists that had had plenty of opportunities to pull over to let it, and the rest of us, to pass.

 

[rorywquin]

Exactly that a year or 3 back driving into Fort William ..... The road is narrow & the large HGV had to wait behind cyclists that had had plenty of opportunities to pull over to let it, and the rest of us, to pass.

That is the problem. It is often impossible (I’ve also driven that road) to leave a 1.5m gap and safely pass where they could stop and let people past. I err on the side of caution but it is really annoying.

I had 4.5 L diesel 200 series Landcruiser in Oz (cyclists are more abundant there) and it gave me great pleasure to put it into top gear, floor the accelerator and billow clouds of black smoke as I passed cyclists that had held me up like that.

 

[00slk]

I've never had any problem with cyclist's on the road, I used to be one, still got my bicycle though not ridden it for nearly 16 years, I never had any problems with car drivers either when I was out n about. I have had more idiots overtaken me, cutting me off and tailgating me when I used to ride my motorbike!
What is going to be more challenging is coming up behind cyclist riding in the middle of the lane on a single 60mph carriageway when I am in the lorry........No actually! There will be no difference as if they are riding close to the roadside, I still need the other side of the road to overtake them plus 400metres of clear road ahead view, except on a narrow country lane where there will not be 5ft clearance for a lorry to over take a cyclist even on a good long straight piece of road, so I will be stuck behind a cyclist for the duration of his 8-12mph cycle ride for any given distance. Same thing happens when I get stuck behind a tractor, our only saving grace here is the tractor can exit off at the next farm gate
Saying that, some cyclist who know there is a lorry following them will pull off and stop to let us go by
Having a quick scan over some of the posts and one mentioned taxing, moting the bicycles, I thought that was a good idea as after reading about this new cycling law the cyclist will have more say on the condition of the roads than motorist and therefore the councils will start bending over backwards to repair our roads properly, or did the cyclist lobby group not have a say in these new rules?

 

[Gazwould]

id be more than happy to be held up by this cyclist

Trouble especially when they are in a group then you've got no chance , ****** inconvenience .