E270cdi versus Jaguar S-Type 2.7d

[boarderofcanada]

It's traditional for me to have a last minute wobble before I take the plunge, and this will probably fizzle out quickly. But has anyone any experience of the diesel S-Type before I buy an E270cdi? Putting aside looks, I'm attracted by its supposedly ultra smooth engine and good reliability, both (so I read) better than early W211s. Am I mad?

 

[stumpy]

Have driven the engine in a RRS and it is very very smooth. Can't say much for the performance in the S type though as the Rangie weighs 3 tonnes. The car is bound to be better.

 

[jibcl500]

A amte of mine has the RR sprot with the 2.7, I personally thought from the outside it was a little agricultural, Im sure its better in the jag. compare the BHP, Torque and MPG between the two cars.

jib

 

[stumpy]

A amte of mine has the RR sprot with the 2.7, I personally thought from the outside it was a little agricultural, Im sure its better in the jag. compare the BHP, Torque and MPG between the two cars.

jib

I meant that from inside it was very smooth and quiet. There again, that could be partly due to the size of the thing.

 

[Rory]

No personal experience, but I've only heard good things about the (Peugeot / Ford) engine.
It needs all the belts (3, I think) changing at a certain mileage, but I can't remember what this is - I think it was either 100K or 150K miles but you might want to check out the interval and the cost of that job, if you're looking at a high mileage version, or you're likely to hit that during ownership.
I also remember there was a problem with them messing up their diff's as it couldn't handle the torque of the 2.7 diesel engine.

One generic problem with the S Type is that the boot is surprising small - make sure you can live with that.

 

[jberks]

you're certainly not mad looking at alternatives. By all accounts the 2.7 S type is excellent. I suspect the jag 2.7 is a better engine than the Merc one, if simply due to the fact that it's a more moden unit (the Merc one was discontinued around the time the jag was released). Clarkson raced one round Nuburgring so it must be pretty good - he certainly thought so. That said, the merc is also very good (I love mine) and i think the merc looks much better and I believe is better equipped...but then the Jag should be considerably cheaper .. it goes on ...
Drive both, then decide.

 

[boarderofcanada]

Cool, thanks for the feedback. This really isn't like other forums I've frequented for other cars I've owned. Suggesting any other kind of car or marque normally brings down a shower of scorn, so thanks again.

 

[Rory]

We don't want Mercedes (who may monitor the forum) to think we're too sycophantic to the marque. They might get complacent.

 

[davidsl500]

From memory the cam belt change on the Jaguar is a biggie ! Approx £1200 at 60,000 mile intervals. Explains why you see alot for sale at 55,000 or 115,000 mile-ish!

 

[Speedmaster]

There is a chap who works with me who has a Jag S-Type 2.7 Sport D and loves it to bits, had a c-class before. It is a nice looking car and he apparently gets a remarkable fiel consumption out of it. Good value pre=owned as well

 

[boarderofcanada]

Well, I bought an S-Type after all. You get a lot more S-type than you do E270cdi for £13k, and the Jag undeniably has more of a sense of occasion about it. Wonderfully smooth and quiet, the engine is more of a turbine than an motor. More thirsty at 35mpg, less practical in a number of ways and less handsome than a W211 I imagine, but I'm happy with my choice so far. In case you were wondering!

 

[outsmartsmart]

I have experience of the 2.7 engine in both manual gearbox and auto in Discovery 3 series and S type with auto box.

I think its a cracking engine, more than adequate for the Disco and a smooth, fast option in the S type.

Auto Disco did about 27mpg on my 100 mile round trip commutes on the motorway with cruise set at 75mph genuine speed. As I was paid a fuel allowance I opted for manual box after that and got what I consider brilliant fuel performance for a 2.7 tonne beast of 31mpg. In the Jag S type, driven a bit more spiritedly, I used to average about 36mpg