E300 Bluetec/Hybrid problems

[babayarro]

I have a 2014 E300 Bluetec/Hybrid that stopped responding completely a few weeks ago, after ringing the car alarm for 3-4 minutes... And a bad "burnt" smell under the bonnet.

Now the car is in the Official MB garage of North Cyprus... (went there with a towing truck) ....

When they checked it with the diagnosing computer the messages appear as the Hybrid together with the Main Battery need to be changed both; (initially) just to diagnose what was the real problem that the car stopped responding and went into a "deep sleep"...

As you can understand, the Hybrid battery is about €22,000 here in North Cyprus and I cannot afford to buy a new one... Which also sounds "illlogical" to buy a spare part which costs more than the value of a 2014-make car. (just for diagnosing the real problem).

Now the car sleeps in the MB garage, completely unusable...

Is there any way to refurbish that Hybrid Batteries?

If I find another Hybrid Battery from another car (as a second hand) would that be able to work on my car (because the part number will be different)?

Or should I buy a same model/make car from scrap (or a split one) and try to use its batteries as spare parts for my car?

Any suggestions for me?

 

[harrye500]

Hi Babayarro. It would be challenging to find an identical model of the same year in a Scrap Merchants in the UK, so I would think it would be even more challenging in Cyprus. Your model is an early MB entry into the Hybrid world, and their entries are generally not good ones. Even now, their reputation isn't excellent. Maybe the only option is to dispose of or scrap it as a new battery is clearly not viable. Can they not supply a car battery so further tests can be done?

 

[ajlsl600]

A perfect reason to AVOID DURACELLS!!
good luck to op. I hope u find an economic solution.

 

[babayarro]

Hi Babayarro. It would be challenging to find an identical model of the same year in a Scrap Merchants in the UK, so I would think it would be even more challenging in Cyprus. Your model is an early MB entry into the Hybrid world, and their entries are generally not good ones. Even now, their reputation isn't excellent. Maybe the only option is to dispose of or scrap it as a new battery is clearly not viable. Can they not supply a car battery so further tests can be done?

I believe they can supply a brand new battery for the tests to be done, of course but "if they want to"...

Because they are one of the biggest companies in the world... And buying an Hybrid battery just for testing the Hybrid cars should not be a problem for them...

But as I've told before, "if they want to"...

2014 ------> 2023 ... If I were Mercedes-Benz I would have been bothered if one of my cars is about to be scrapped after 9 years of service... That kind of hybrid cars should not become useless when their batteries go faulty... there "must" be a solution...

 

[Blobcat]

I believe they can supply a brand new battery for the tests to be done, of course but "if they want to"...

Because they are one of the biggest companies in the world... And buying an Hybrid battery just for testing the Hybrid cars should not be a problem for them...

But as I've told before, "if they want to"...

2014 ------> 2023 ... If I were Mercedes-Benz I would have been bothered if one of my cars is about to be scrapped after 9 years of service... That kind of hybrid cars should not become useless when their batteries go faulty... there "must" be a solution...

Unfortunately 8.2 years is design life of new cars… (not just Mercedes)

Terrible for the world and environment… but it keeps the factories working and shareholders happy

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

Unfortunately the E300 hybrid was the first Mercedes of its kind and rushed to the market with very little pre-production testing as by 2014 MB were late to produce a hybrid model. I do feel MB should have done more to keep these cars on the road and offset the short lifespan of these vehicles but they didn’t

 

[ajlsl600]

As said I goin no where near any duracell. Like all today the idea is to have you on a bungie drip feeding makers every month phone, TV, Netflix, cars, pc service contacts. Boiler contracts, Yr money goin into closing banks. Mortgage, even a ****** funeral.
I am at odds with modern world. I like to purchase reasonable quality, maKe it last, maintain and fix it myself. As for 8.2 f yrs, they can f off.. I must just modify my idea on what to buy. Keeping it simple, easy to fix and practical. Pretty much rules out anything modern really.

 

[Jason63]

I think you need to find a different garage that know what they are doing. Clearly the Main MB Dealer can't really fault find, only replace parts at your expense until the problem goes away.

 

[peterws1957]

I have a 2014 E300 Bluetec/Hybrid that stopped responding completely a few weeks ago, after ringing the car alarm for 3-4 minutes... And a bad "burnt" smell under the bonnet.

Now the car is in the Official MB garage of North Cyprus... (went there with a towing truck) ....

When they checked it with the diagnosing computer the messages appear as the Hybrid together with the Main Battery need to be changed both; (initially) just to diagnose what was the real problem that the car stopped responding and went into a "deep sleep"...

As you can understand, the Hybrid battery is about €22,000 here in North Cyprus and I cannot afford to buy a new one... Which also sounds "illlogical" to buy a spare part which costs more than the value of a 2014-make car. (just for diagnosing the real problem).

Now the car sleeps in the MB garage, completely unusable...

Is there any way to refurbish that Hybrid Batteries?

If I find another Hybrid Battery from another car (as a second hand) would that be able to work on my car (because the part number will be different)?

Or should I buy a same model/make car from scrap (or a split one) and try to use its batteries as spare parts for my car?

Any suggestions for me?

Hybrid batteries are being researched now by independent companies and I'm sure that much more economic solutions will be available in the future, but that's no good to you now! Cells can be replaced and they are nowhere near 22k but you really really have to know what you are doing. Have a look at Tavarish and Rich Rebuilds on YouTube to see their experiences with these batteries. I feel for your predicament and it is this problem precisely which keeps me from venturing into the Hybrid/EV market. (Incidentally Tavarish was quoted $160,000 to replace his Mclaren main battery and $6.000 to replace the 12volt battery).

 

[harrye500]

Babayarro as suggested, can you find another garage, perhaps a Mercedes specialist? It does not sound like the MB dealer understands what the issue(s) are. I really feel for you, your situation is very unfortunate.

 

[bladecrazy]

Hybrid batteries are being researched now by independent companies and I'm sure that much more economic solutions will be available in the future, but that's no good to you now! Cells can be replaced and they are nowhere near 22k but you really really have to know what you are doing. Have a look at Tavarish and Rich Rebuilds on YouTube to see their experiences with these batteries. I feel for your predicament and it is this problem precisely which keeps me from venturing into the Hybrid/EV market. (Incidentally Tavarish was quoted $160,000 to replace his Mclaren main battery and $6.000 to replace the 12volt battery).

I follow rich rebuilds and its a great watch, very good with teslas and seems to change a lot of tesla batterie packs.

 

[DSK]

I can’t help with your problem but here in the UK, there have been quite a lot of newspaper articles with disgruntled owners being left with £15k of scrap metal because they had issues with their E300 models and were quoted for a new battery worth more than the car.

I hope things somehow work out for you as the manufacturers are getting away with shocking products and consumers who don’t know better being taken advantage of.


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[ajlsl600]

Avoid avoid they are a financial car crash. Maker knows it.

 

[00slk]

Avoid avoid they are a financial car crash. Maker knows it.

Pity the greenys don't see it......

 

[babayarro]

Friends, finally, after (3 or 4) weeks, good news started coming from the Mercedes-Benz authorized dealer...

The technical service staff, who initially told me that I needed to replace my Hybrid battery and main battery by looking at the error codes produced by the computer, suddenly changed their minds after I went to meet the owner of the Mercedes-Benz authorized dealer.

Now, they told me that the liquid inside the hybrid battery leaked into the so-called "octopus" brain (they are probably talking about a regulator) and caused a short circuit there, and that the problem would be solved by replacing that "Octopus" brain (worth €1600 second-hand) and its burnt cable worth (€150 second-hand).

They asked me whether I wanted them to be brought brand-new from Germany for €5500 or second-hand from the market (€1750). I said that I wanted the second-hand ones to be installed on the vehicle, and that it was important for the vehicle to only be able to move for now.

They said they would repair the vehicle and let me know...

I think I will get this vehicle from the repair shop and sell it immediately...

 

[Srdl]

I think I will get this vehicle from the repair shop and sell it immediately...

Sounds like a good idea!

 

[harrye500]

Yes as the Stock Market Traders may say from time to time... "Sell, Sell, SELL!"

 

[JasonOng]

I have the same issue with the hybrid battery. It’s a no brainer to replace the battery that would cost more than the car’s market value. My biggest regret buying this ****!

 

[DSK]

@babyarro - Great news something positive has surfaced and 1750 euros is far batter than 22000 euros.

I fully support your idea of getting rid of the car, to protect yourself against imminent future issues. It’s not only MB who make very poor cars these days but, many manufactures. Your issue proves that car’s are not only built cheaply but, the complexity to great for dealers and mechanics, which, leaves one, whose paid for a car, with an unusable vehicle.

Personally, if I had to buy a new car, I would look no further than Lexus and Porsche offerings. Used I’d get a Lexus also, then consider well built older cars which, are. It designed to be stranded in the event of an issue but, also fixable easily by skilled mechanics.


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