E320Cdi Avantgarge valuation.

[Buster73]

First Reg Jan 04 on 53 plate.

One owner purchased from new , FMBSH from suppling dealer.
Very clean car 72,000 miles approx 5000 till next service.

Silver
Black leather
Heated front seats
Pan roof
Keyless go
Split rear seats
6 cd
mudflaps
carpet mats
rubber mats
boot liner

on good tyres and t&t till end of December


Any genuine ideas on what it's worth to sell privately or px value.


Many thanks

 

[Buster73]

Obviously worth nothing then ?

 

[Aletank]

Extras arn't worth anythin really especially when doing a Trade In, In a Private Sale they'll help sell the car easier and ensure top price. Use the sites below and let us know how you get on

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/used-prices/
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/used-car-prices/

Trade In Prices Below Only !
http://www.theaa.com/cbg/home.jsp
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/s...=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b&sessionid=0

 

[Buster73]

Thanks for that Aletank.


Quite useful , those sites .

numbers crunched just a little less than I had thought it was worth.

 

[hawk20]

It is simply not true that extras are worth nothing. For example, according to Glass's Guide, the trade bible, one extra adds as much to residuals as it originally cost (that is the option of Automatic gearbox on a car). Most other major extras add about half what they cost -leather and so on. Some dealers are offering up to £1000 more for Mercs with factory fitted COMAND.

Quite the best guide to value is to go to the Glass's Guide website and type in all the details of the car and they will give you a full valuation for about £3. They give trade price, part ex values, private sale and dealer selling price. Really useful. Twice I have printed off a valuation and taken it with me to haggle a part ex value and it has made a real difference both times. I have always got worthwhile extra money for useful extras on a car. If you go to a dealer who thinks extras are worth nothing; he is a fool. Shun him and go elsewhere. Whenever I have bought secondhand I have always cared mightily what the extras are. When I bought my S class, I wanted walnut, leather, parktronic, memory seats, 6cd changer and so on. I made a list and scoured the country till I found what I wanted. And it is not just me. Several Merc dealers have told me their customers are pretty choosy and are usually prepared to pay for what they want.

 

[hawk20]

I should have added that condition can make a big difference. Lots of chips scratches and dents, and heavily scuffed alloy wheels, and damaged interior trim or seating can cost the dealer plenty to put right before he retails the car. In average condition you might get 12/13k but in really nice condition perhaps £14k.

If you use the MB searc engine for approved used cars you will see what dealers ask for cars like your own. You may find these links useful: -

http://www.used-mercedescars.co.uk

http://www.directmercedes.co.uk

http://www.glass.co.uk

You can do a basic check with Glass's for free via Vauxhall's website http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vx/finance/valueyourcar.do

 

[Aletank]

When your buying a used car a dealer will rave on about the extras it has fitted and low mileage etc But when your trading in a car with loadsa extras and low mileage the dealer most of the time will just get his Glass's guide out and offer book price and tell you how slow the market is at the moment etc
When you buy a new car with extras you will never get back what you paid for them, only a very small % But definatly makes the car easier to sell especially privately. I agree Automatic Gearboxes make a difference on prestige cars, but smaller cars fords/vauxhall etc can be devalued by them !!

 

[jberks]

Trade in wise, a car is worth bottom book trade - thats it. Anything else is an illusion made up from the profit he has in the car you are buying.
Sure he may tell you that your car is worth more because of a particular gadget or worth less due to it's colour, but this is just part of perpetuating the myth.
It used to be true in the old days, when a dealership owner would make the decision based on what he thought he could get for a car. If it was 'loaded' or the right colour or model and he knew he had customers lined up then he could take a gamble and give you more. If it didn't work out, it would hit his bottom line but he only had himself to answer to.
These days, its all plc's and accountants. Any salesman who makes a loss on any part of a transaction will get roasted. So, he has to work on the basis that your car will be sold through the block. If they can get more off the forecourt, then great (though your car would then be on the other side of the transaction so will still need to be bought cheap enough to show enough profit and make the next customers trade in look good), but they need to be sure that if they do end up jobbing your car out, they will at the very least, break even.
As far as extras is concerned, they're worth nothing. True, they do make the car more saleable and wll result in a slightly better price on the forecourt, but assume a pre-wire phone costs £500, it may add perhaps £50 to the car's value or be completely overruled by another that has a different colour. Any more than that and the buyer will be thinking, I can put bluetooth in. Command costs £2000 but my experience is that it's worth a couple of hundred on the asking price and even that is debateable.

At the end of the day, a car is worth what someone will pay for it as a package. You may find someone will will fall for your car and will pay over the odds, or someone who doesn't know that an almost identical one is for sale in the next street for £1k less. I bought mine based on the fact that it had heated memory seats, leather, parktronic, cd changer and nice wheels. I didn't care that it didn't have command. It would have been nice, but to me, it wasn't a deal breaker and I wouldn't have paid more. In fact I turned down a command equipped one despite being the same price - the rest of the car wasn't as nice.
You have to ask yourself, if 2 identical used cars were sitting in front of you and you were already pushing your budget (as we all do). If one had command and was £1k more, and the other had heated leather memory seats, which would you opt for?
I dare say we'd all have a different answer, which is my point. The extras are only worth what a particular used buyer considers them to be worth, and that varies from buyer to buyer.

Yes auto is worth a lot on a merc, but actually it's worth nothing. Its more that the manual is UNdesireable so people will only take it away if they are incentivised by a healthy discount!

 

[hawk20]

I normally agree with jberks and find much wisdom in what he says. But the head of Glass's Guide said that automatic gets back its full cost on resale and he should know. And he was speaking of cars in general, not just on Mercs.

Secondly, my local Merc dealer sells some part ex cars to the trade and only retails a chosen few. And on cars up to three years old the trade are offering him £1k more for Mercs with COMAND than those without.

But there are many lazy people in the trade who just look up the average figure in Glass's and do not adjust for extras or even much for condition. All I am saying is: shun them. There are others who do care a lot about condition and good extras and will pay more for them.

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

I think in these situations doing a little bit of homework pays off. Check the MB website (wonderful thing the web) for the availability, spec and price of similar cars. This will give you an idea before you start negotiations with a dealer. If the car is the right colour and a good spec (which yours is) expect the higher end of the scale minus trade in margin.

I always expect that a well specced car will sell well. I missed a fully loaded e class (with command) with low miles because it went in hours as opposed to days and weeks when I was looking.

The lack of command and slightlly high miles are against you getting the best price and expect at least 5% less than MB from a non franchised dealer.

To sell privately you may improve on the trade in price at a dealers or indie but most people are looking for a warranty of some sort on these vehicles, classifieds are the place to look.

 

[Rory]

I normally agree with jberks and find much wisdom in what he says. But the head of Glass's Guide said that automatic gets back its full cost on resale and he should know. And he was speaking of cars in general, not just on Mercs.

Mercs would be expected to have auto. You’ll find that if you try to p/x a manual, then they’ll knock £1K (perhaps more) off the price.

Secondly, my local Merc dealer sells some part ex cars to the trade and only retails a chosen few. And on cars up to three years old the trade are offering him £1k more for Mercs with COMAND than those without.

Even if that's correct it's still depreciated faster than the rest of the car.

I bought my car at 5mths old and I basically got COMAND, phone, auto & heated leather free.

 

[hawk20]

Even if that's correct it's still depreciated faster than the rest of the car.

I bought my car at 5mths old and I basically got COMAND, phone, auto & heated leather free.

Oh, of course I accept that the COMAND does not get back all you pay for it. Others were saying you get NOTHING for extras when you resell. By the way to get £1000 extra for COMAND on a 3 year old car is over 50%. Not a bad residual by today's meagre standards.