e400d all terrain

[frankychops]

Hi all, new here, hoping to be getting an e400d all terrain. many of them here? anything to look for? what are they like on motorway's(mpg wise). I think its the only eclass with proper air suspension now?

 

[Blobcat]

Hello and welcome

Question you need to ask yourself in 2021 is why do you need a diesel? The emissions equipment is flakey to say the least to meet Euro 6 (not just Mercedes all makes) so if you do need a diesel get a good warranty

 

[A.J.]

Hi and welcome to the forum

 

[00slk]

Hello and welcome

 

[Srdl]

Hello and welcome

 

[frankychops]

Hello and welcome

Question you need to ask yourself in 2021 is why do you need a diesel? The emissions equipment is flakey to say the least to meet Euro 6 (not just Mercedes all makes) so if you do need a diesel get a good warranty

can you tell me why I wouldn't want one? seems as its 2021 and we're not yet making hover cars, what should I be in?

 

[Blobcat]

can you tell me why I wouldn't want one? seems as its 2021 and we're not yet making hover cars, what should I be in?

Petrol.

Unless it’s a company car and BIK is in play then you’ll want a hybrid or leccy...

 

[frankychops]

Petrol.

Unless it’s a company car and BIK is in play then you’ll want a hybrid or leccy...

I think you've bought into the daily mail news updates.

Modern petrol cars have a type of dpf fitted, the e400d's engine will in its current form pass future emissions standards.

Diesel's going no where. its now about 1-2p per litre more than petrol.

For £35k(cost of a 2019 e400d all terrain), what else is there that offers the same economy/low emissions/performance and ability? Also AWD that'll tow nicely?

 

[Srdl]

Modern petrol cars have a type of dpf fitted,

Yes, but the GPF (Gasoline Particulate Filter) is different and regeneration works in a different way. It is not the problem ridden compromise that the DPF is and petrol cars don’t need Pig Pi$$ (AdBlue) to clean emissions. If you want to read more about GPF have a look at the link below.

Infineum Insight - Gasoline particulate filters

Regulations curbing vehicle tailpipe emissions are being introduced and/or tightened the world over to help improve air quality. Infineum Insight looks at the automotive industry’s growing use of gasoline particulate filters as one method of compliance.

www.infineuminsight.com

 

[Blobcat]

I think you've bought into the daily mail news updates.

Modern petrol cars have a type of dpf fitted, the e400d's engine will in its current form pass future emissions standards.

Diesel's going no where. its now about 1-2p per litre more than petrol.

For £35k(cost of a 2019 e400d all terrain), what else is there that offers the same economy/low emissions/performance and ability? Also AWD that'll tow nicely?

Not even slightly...

Have a read of the failures on NOX sensors and ad-blue systems, many ££££ bills that counteract any mpg benefits.

Also modern diesels do not like or work for short journeys. Dealers don’t tell you this at all (why would they, they’re trying to sell cars...). Many many DPF issues caused leading again to big bills for the owners.

I’ve had many diesels and used to get 83mpg from my last E220d. I wouldn’t have another unless I wasn’t paying.

Good luck, I fear you’ll be needing it...

 

[John Laidlaw]

Welcome ....
Depending on your travel profile it could work don’t be put off
Torque, 3.0v6 diesel is a great thing allied to 4wd...
Get it at the right price, keep for 5 years or so then no worries

 

[frankychops]

It’s the new il6....

have a look at the issues with that engine, next to none

 

[V6Matty]

It’s the new il6....

have a look at the issues with that engine, next to none

Because it’s too new to start seeing regular failures of components, just as we didn’t really hear issues about the OM654 for about 4 years into its production, we now see regularly what issues are with that engine

 

[frankychops]

Have the doom mongers got any actual experience with this engine?

I drove an e53, the e400d felt 'fitter' apart from at the very top of the rev range. Given the real world performance is just about the same, I'm happy with engine choice.

I'm not an old lady who's longest journey is 3 miles once a week.

I like the torque delivery of modern oil burners, makes for a great package.

 

[Blobcat]

Have the doom mongers got any actual experience with this engine?

I drove an e53, the e400d felt 'fitter' apart from at the very top of the rev range. Given the real world performance is just about the same, I'm happy with engine choice.

I'm not an old lady who's longest journey is 3 miles once a week.

I like the torque delivery of modern oil burners, makes for a great package.

You’ve made you mind up, good for you. Please keep us updated as real life experience is what the forum thrives on.

This forum, like most is populated mostly by owners searching for advice on how to fix issues. And as the IL6 is so new it’s all in warranty we’re not getting the threads (yet...)

 

[John Laidlaw]

It’s the new il6....

have a look at the issues with that engine, next to none

Oh yeah silly me, still 6cyl though so all good

 

[John Laidlaw]

Have the doom mongers got any actual experience with this engine?

I drove an e53, the e400d felt 'fitter' apart from at the very top of the rev range. Given the real world performance is just about the same, I'm happy with engine choice.

I'm not an old lady who's longest journey is 3 miles once a week.

I like the torque delivery of modern oil burners, makes for a great package.

Decent choice then....

 

[frankychops]

Decent choice then....

I've a 640d with the lovely twin turbo IL6, so you do get use to a particular amount of shove with decent MPG!

 

[John Laidlaw]

I've a 640d with the lovely twin turbo IL6, so you do get use to a particular amount of shove with decent MPG!

The IL6 twin turbo is good, I’ve the B57 in my current shed- works well

 

[Janchee]

I think you've bought into the daily mail news updates.

Modern petrol cars have a type of dpf fitted, the e400d's engine will in its current form pass future emissions standards.

Diesel's going no where. its now about 1-2p per litre more than petrol.

For £35k(cost of a 2019 e400d all terrain), what else is there that offers the same economy/low emissions/performance and ability? Also AWD that'll tow nicely?

If it’s from a Mercedes Dealer and you can afford the extended warranty, then great. It’s a great car for the money. Hopefully there isn’t the crabbing issue on the 4matic E class?

Interested to hear why you’re coming away from BMW?