electric heated door mirror (s)

[anyweb]

hi guys,

went out this morning to bring my eldest son to school, and the car was frosted over (first time this winter),

so i started the car to warm it up inside and turned on the heated rear window button,

came back a few minutes later to see it was doing its job and noticed steam rising from my drivers side door mirror, i put my hand up to it and it was warm ! so I have a heated mirror on my door, but not on the passenger door,

is that normal that one of the two is heated, sounds daft to me but I just wanted to check,

I did note that the drivers side mirror has a line through it about one third of the way through vertically and perhaps thats to tell you that it's a heated mirror, the other mirror doesnt have this line

so is what I'm seeing normal for my car ? c200/1995

cheers
anyweb

 

[Blobcat]

The line denotes where the flat part of the mirror changes to the convex part. I would have thought that both mirrors (if electically adjustable) would be heated. What does your manual (or the Russian Vin Decoder) say WRT the mirrors.

 

[television]

The line denotes where the flat part of the mirror changes to the convex part. I would have thought that both mirrors (if electically adjustable) would be heated. What does your manual (or the Russian Vin Decoder) say WRT the mirrors.

I would have thought that you would know better by say check on the VIN as standard fittings are not shown.

malcolm

 

[Myros]

both are heated on my 202 and my 124

so maybe you have a problem with the passenger one. On the 202 they seem to come on when the temp falls below 4 deg celsius, on the 124, with the HRW.

 

[Blobcat]

I would have thought that you would know better by say check on the VIN as standard fittings are not shown.

malcolm

I agree if they are standard, however if they are options, even if included in a Sport/Classic/Elegance/Avantgarde/SE trim park they may well be listed.

 

[anyweb]

The line denotes where the flat part of the mirror changes to the convex part. I would have thought that both mirrors (if electically adjustable) would be heated. What does your manual (or the Russian Vin Decoder) say WRT the mirrors.

not on mine it doesnt, to either side of the line the mirror remains flat as a piece of mirror normally is, no convex or concave shape to either side of it at all,

i'll check the vin on the russian site shortly to see what it says,

cheers
anyweb

 

[anyweb]

well according to the russian site it doesnt mention heated mirrors at all

see here

Options
030 approved electronic saveguard against unauthorised removal (FBS 2) (с 01.10.1994)
291 airbag for front passenger
airbag for front passenger (с 01.10.1993)
airbag for driver and front passenger (if driver airbag standard - then only for passenger)
412 electric sliding roof with tilting device (с 01.07.1983)
430 headrests in the rear (с 01.01.1977)
515 Becker radio (AM/FM - USA)
radio MB Classic with traffic news decoder (VK) (с 01.07.1992)
550 trailer coupling (с 01.03.1965)
583 electric window lifters (front doors) (с 01.04.1970)
591 heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane, (single-sheet safety glass), Germany
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, single pane safety glass - Germany (с 01.01.1972)
866 Technical changes of modelling year 1995 (с 01.01.1994 по 19.10.1997)

 

[M6AJJ]

On my 97 C200 only the drivers side mirror was heated.

 

[television]

I agree if they are standard, however if they are options, even if included in a Sport/Classic/Elegance/Avantgarde/SE trim park they may well be listed.
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This was a pointless exercise,those things shown were extra's in the 90's

cant see the heated mirrors there, can you.

Malcolm

 

[anyweb]

On my 97 C200 only the drivers side mirror was heated.

thanks that's the info I needed,

still seems strange that they only heat the drivers side and not both,

also, does your mirror only 'defrost' when you turn on the heated rear windscreen ? or is it an automatic function of some sort

I'm amazed I've had the car nearly two years and hadnt noticed the defrosting mirror until now

cheers
anyweb

 

[Blobcat]

This was a pointless exercise,those things shown were extra's in the 90's

cant see the heated mirrors there, can you.

Malcolm

No, just electric mirrors. Anywebs car is circa 1995 and his vin shows no electric mirrors at all. I suggested the vin decoder as it is quick and easy and may have coughed up some info.

 

[Ultymate]

On my 98 C230K estate both are heated

 

[mioba]

to be honest i think they should both be heated, things like this have been standard on mercs for a v long time.

 

[anyweb]

ok if that's the case then why would my passenger mirror not be heating ? should i be looking for a fuse or relay ? the electric directional part of both mirrors works perfectly so power is getting to them

cheers
anyweb

 

[television]

Anyweb I am sending you 2 papers on the dismanling of your mirrors.

The heated mirrors are standard, both sides.

The wires on the plugs on the mirrors heaters are Pins 1 and 2. fuses are 3 and 29.

If all this info was on the vin it would be like the stupid MB adverts where all but nothing is shown and 30 pages long.

Malcolm

 

[mioba]

ok if that's the case then why would my passenger mirror not be heating ? should i be looking for a fuse or relay ? the electric directional part of both mirrors works perfectly so power is getting to them

cheers
anyweb

its like anything, erm broke,

heating element, loose connection etc etc

I had the passengers side fail on my w220, not that i would ever known and picked up by the dealers.

ps they are deadly expensive parts to replace. you may be surprised regardless of car model

 

[Blobcat]

Just a thought if at some time the passenger side mirror glass was broken someone may have taken the cheap option and fitted an aftermarket replacement mirror. These are generally stuck to the old broken glass, this means that although the heater element may still be working the replacement glass being stuck to the old mirror doesn't heat up.
I cannot tell by your photos (I've just been looking at the pax side and realised it is the drivers side D'oh). Although I cannot tell on the real pax side either.
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...417717.418&CT=F&cat=44V&SID=72&SGR=175&SGN=06

 

[television]

Just a thought if at some time the passenger side mirror glass was broken someone may have taken the cheap option and fitted an aftermarket replacement mirror. These are generally stuck to the old broken glass, this means that although the heater element may still be working the replacement glass being stuck to the old mirror doesn't heat up.
I cannot tell by your photos (I've just been looking at the pax side and realised it is the drivers side D'oh). Although I cannot tell on the real pax side either.
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...417717.418&CT=F&cat=44V&SID=72&SGR=175&SGN=06

I can assure you Blobcat that after market stuck on mirrors do heat up and work very well, I have been there and done it,even in Sweden on my Saab9000exec. It tells you on the packets that the heated mirror still works.
You really should not make these comments if you do not know, and have not used them. It just makes more work in having to correct you.


Malcolm

 

[turnipsock]

also, does your mirror only 'defrost' when you turn on the heated rear windscreen ?

Yes.

The heated windscreen washers also only work when you turn on the defrost.

 

[Blobcat]

I can assure you Blobcat that after market stuck on mirrors do heat up and work very well, I have been there and done it,even in Sweden on my Saab9000exec. It tells you on the packets that the heated mirror still works.
You really should not make these comments if you do not know, and have not used them. It just makes more work in having to correct you.


Malcolm

I wondered if you would take offence at my suggestion .
If you remove the old glass and stick the replacement to the original backing then yes the heating element still works. If you stick the new replacement glass onto the old broken glass as per the guide on the packet then the heater has little if any effect. You obviously used a different replacement mirror.
I'm just coming up with options and ideas from real life to help a fellow forum member out.