Headlights (UK -> EU) Sprinter 313CDI 2015

[matt penrice]

Hi there,

(I saw the pinned headlight adjustment thread but doesn't cover sprinter)

Am trying to register my 2015 313CDI Sprinter in the Netherlands but it's failed on headlights as expected.

Trouble is, i have contacted many MB garages and they all seem nonplussed about what's required to do the conversion.

Does anyone have any experience with what is required? Below are photos of my headlights - i'm not even sure if they are bi-xenon/halogen to be honest so any advice would be great.

 

[Mark A]

Halogen lights. I suspect it is a new set of light units, you should be able to pick up after market units on eBay etc... others will hopefully confirm if there’s a cheaper way to do it.

 

[matt penrice]

I'm fairly consigned to getting new lights but still unsure about compatibility with UK wiring etc.

There just doesn't seem to be any authoritative docs around :shrug

 

[Craiglxviii]

The lamps should be plug and play. The only difference between RHD & LHD is the best pattern, the wiring should be identical.
For this vehicle the lamp units will need to be swapped out.

 

[matt penrice]

The lamps should be plug and play. The only difference between RHD & LHD is the best pattern, the wiring should be identical.
For this vehicle the lamp units will need to be swapped out.

That sounds authoritative enough for me! Thanks

Would a clueless millennial be capable of such a repair (with help of Youtube of course!)? I assume there'd be some degree of calibration required?

 

[Craiglxviii]

That sounds authoritative enough for me! Thanks

Would a clueless millennial be capable of such a repair (with help of Youtube of course!)? I assume there'd be some degree of calibration required?

I think each lamp is secured with 3 bolts, and they all have alignment adjuster devices built in. May require front bumper removal.

 

[matt penrice]

Do you have any info on how the alignment adjustment would work pls - i'm hoping to fit this on a car park before taking into the inspection centre. I have the usual tools, nothing specialist

 

[Craiglxviii]

Yep. They’re usually two little screwjacks built into each lamp to give lateral and height adjustment. Park the van facing a wall, turn the lamps on before you do the swap and take a pic of the beam pattern, specifically the height of the main brightness cone. Once you’ve done the swap, then fiddle with the adjustment screws to replicate the beam pattern as a mirror image using your pic as reference.

 

[matt penrice]

Yep. They’re usually two little screwjacks built into each lamp to give lateral and height adjustment. Park the van facing a wall, turn the lamps on before you do the swap and take a pic of the beam pattern, specifically the height of the main brightness cone. Once you’ve done the swap, then fiddle with the adjustment screws to replicate the beam pattern as a mirror image using your pic as reference.

That's very helpful thanks again

 

[matt penrice]

Yep. They’re usually two little screwjacks built into each lamp to give lateral and height adjustment. Park the van facing a wall, turn the lamps on before you do the swap and take a pic of the beam pattern, specifically the height of the main brightness cone. Once you’ve done the swap, then fiddle with the adjustment screws to replicate the beam pattern as a mirror image using your pic as reference.

After researching a good deal and learning much about the NCV3/906/313 vehicle I have found these very well priced lamps -

https://www.carpartsdirect.nl/van-wezel-3077962-koplamp.htm?typeCode=42840

Obviously it's not official MB part but a reputable retailer. What's giving me pause for thought is that the lights mention "electric light field control" which seems at odds with what you mention about manual screwjacks. Also, hard to tell whether these include indicators?

 

[Craiglxviii]

After researching a good deal and learning much about the NCV3/906/313 vehicle I have found these very well priced lamps -

https://www.carpartsdirect.nl/van-wezel-3077962-koplamp.htm?typeCode=42840

Obviously it's not official MB part but a reputable retailer. What's giving me pause for thought is that the lights mention "electric light field control" which seems at odds with what you mention about manual screwjacks. Also, hard to tell whether these include indicators?

That should be the beam height adjustment, some cars have it manual, some automatic.

 

[matt penrice]

That should be the beam height adjustment, some cars have it manual, some automatic.

Bit of a bump but finally got round to having the lamps i mention above fitted and the plugs are incompatible. Specifically the pins don't align in 3 locations.

This is the new unit connector:



This is the existing unit connector:



This is the product page for the new units again - https://www.carpartsdirect.nl/van-wezel-3077962-koplamp.htm?typeCode=42840

Does anyone have any advice on compatibility or if suitable adapters exist?

Thanks,
Matt

 

[Oldspanners]

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mercedes.7zap.com

Go to the above link and put your VIN in and then go to electrical system/Lighting/Front illumination and look for a part number for a lamp with Right hand traffic. I had a look at https://mercedes.7zap.com/en/eu/fg/...cdi+218cdi/62x/906613/fg/0/0/82/0/175/0/0/#10
but I'm not sure if it's your model but it doesn't look like there's an EU version just Canada and USA a quick look came up with
https://www.daparto.de/Teilenummernsuche/Hella/1ej011030151 on a German site which I use but the photo doesn't show the connector but try searching the Hella reference.
The simplest way of course is to get the compatible light but I had trouble with UK Jeep and ended up having to change the connectors which involved wiring diagrams and soldering.
The other things to look out for is that the lights have the EU markings and go and get the alignment done at a garage with the right equipment it's cheaper that a return visit.
Good luck and do a lot of cross checking of numbers.
EDIT More here using the OE number on the site you used but they may well have the same connector but there is one at €70

Alle Hersteller a906-820-02-61 Ersatzteile | DAPARTO

Ersatzteile für alle Fahrzeuge in großer Auswahl von Markenherstellern! ✅ Beste Preise ✅ Autoteile-Preisvergleich seit 2009 ✅ KFZ-Fach Support

www.daparto.de

Oh they also have a site in the Netherlands.
Found this has a view of the connector on the Hella but with my eyes it's not very helpful.

https://www.oscaro.com/projecteur-principal-hella-1ed-011-030-121-6035100-259-p#

 

[matt penrice]

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parts catalog Van mercedes CHASSIS EUROPA, original catalog Van mercedes CHASSIS EUROPA, online catalog Van mercedes CHASSIS EUROPA, Car catalog Van mercedes CHASSIS EUROPA

mercedes.7zap.com

Go to the above link and put your VIN in and then go to electrical system/Lighting/Front illumination and look for a part number for a lamp with Right hand traffic. I had a look at https://mercedes.7zap.com/en/eu/fg/...cdi+218cdi/62x/906613/fg/0/0/82/0/175/0/0/#10
but I'm not sure if it's your model but it doesn't look like there's an EU version just Canada and USA a quick look came up with
https://www.daparto.de/Teilenummernsuche/Hella/1ej011030151 on a German site which I use but the photo doesn't show the connector but try searching the Hella reference.
The simplest way of course is to get the compatible light but I had trouble with UK Jeep and ended up having to change the connectors which involved wiring diagrams and soldering.
The other things to look out for is that the lights have the EU markings and go and get the alignment done at a garage with the right equipment it's cheaper that a return visit.
Good luck and do a lot of cross checking of numbers.
EDIT More here using the OE number on the site you used but they may well have the same connector but there is one at €70

Alle Hersteller a906-820-02-61 Ersatzteile | DAPARTO

Ersatzteile für alle Fahrzeuge in großer Auswahl von Markenherstellern! ✅ Beste Preise ✅ Autoteile-Preisvergleich seit 2009 ✅ KFZ-Fach Support

www.daparto.de

Oh they also have a site in the Netherlands.
Found this has a view of the connector on the Hella but with my eyes it's not very helpful.

https://www.oscaro.com/projecteur-principal-hella-1ed-011-030-121-6035100-259-p#

Thank you very much for the info (and looking so thoroughly)

Using the VIN approach leads me here - https://mercedes.7zap.com/en/eu/fg/...0/0/82/0/175/0/0/?param=vin:wdb9066352p133351

As you can see, there is no mention of right-hand traffic. Even more worryingly, it explicitly says "REGISTRATION OF VEHICLE NOT POSSIBLE IN EU"
I assume my VIN maps to a UK-specific variant.

Hmmm, I'm unsure what to do next. Without some way of ascertaining whether the connectors are actually compatible between the right/left versions I think buying another set of lamps is likely to just put me in the same situation (i'm pretty sure the ones i've already bought are the correct corresponding lamps).

Is there a way i can reliably find a diagram of a corresponding right-hand traffic lamp connector? I could take a trip to scrap yard but finding the right year etc could be too time consuming

 

[Oldspanners]

I wouldn't be put off by the "REGISTRATION OF VEHICLE NOT POSSIBLE IN EU" as that will be referring to the Canada/USA model of van with different engine etc. and they have different lighting regulations as well. The UK model won't be a problem as until recently it was EU. There's a paragraph in the V5 which shows the tester this.
I would return the lights you bought and ask either one of the suppliers to send a photo of the light connector or go to a local Mercedes dealer or Auto factor and ask to see one. As the photo on the Oscaro site shows one although not clear enough for me to identify as the right type I suspect it's just a matter of finding the right one and certainly if the one's at €70 each come up that would be a result.
It'll work out and then you can post a definitive "How to" for those who wish to follow.

 

[Oldspanners]

Thank you very much for the info (and looking so thoroughly)

Using the VIN approach leads me here - https://mercedes.7zap.com/en/eu/fg/...0/0/82/0/175/0/0/?param=vin:wdb9066352p133351

As you can see, there is no mention of right-hand traffic. Even more worryingly, it explicitly says "REGISTRATION OF VEHICLE NOT POSSIBLE IN EU"
I assume my VIN maps to a UK-specific variant.

Hmmm, I'm unsure what to do next. Without some way of ascertaining whether the connectors are actually compatible between the right/left versions I think buying another set of lamps is likely to just put me in the same situation (i'm pretty sure the ones i've already bought are the correct corresponding lamps).

Is there a way i can reliably find a diagram of a corresponding right-hand traffic lamp connector? I could take a trip to scrap yard but finding the right year etc could be too time consuming

Just got out my best magnifying glass and the Hella lamp on the Oscaro site has the same pin layout as yours small pins in 1,2,4 large pins 5,6,7,8,9,10 and small pin in 12. All you need to do now is take the reference and find one at a good price or a compatible.
Edit Odd just fitting some new indicators to the Golf yesterday and had some Van Wezel ones, but the connectors were nothing like what they should have been and ended up keeping the existing connectors after a bit of soldering.

​

 

[matt penrice]

Just got out my best magnifying glass and the Hella lamp on the Oscaro site has the same pin layout as yours small pins in 1,2,4 large pins 5,6,7,8,9,10 and small pin in 12. All you need to do now is take the reference and find one at a good price or a compatible.
Edit Odd just fitting some new indicators to the Golf yesterday and had some Van Wezel ones, but the connectors were nothing like what they should have been and ended up keeping the existing connectors after a bit of soldering.

​

Oh wow, I was doing the same earlier but don't have that trained eye i suppose. Your help is much appreciated - this is a bit of an ordeal for a clueless office worker

Because I was at a bit of a loss earlier I followed the process of using my VIN to locate the same (UK) units that's i'm swapping, and then simply swapping to "right hand traffic" (using autodoc.nl). I take most comfort in knowing i'm getting the correct corresponding units (as far as autodoc's records dictate).
This has again led me to the OEMs:

"906 820 05 61"
"906 820 06 61"

Units purchased:

- https://www.autodoc.nl/hella/929603
- https://www.autodoc.nl/hella/929602

As a result of my last purchase with this same OEM but incompatible connection, i went ahead and purchased a couple of Hella units. It sounds like this was the right move given you've seen disparity in the connectors with non Hella parts.

They should arrive tomorrow and i'll update the thread with all the numbers. This will include the fog lights as i've been through this process also

 

[Oldspanners]

Oh wow, I was doing the same earlier but don't have that trained eye i suppose. Your help is much appreciated - this is a bit of an ordeal for a clueless office worker

Because I was at a bit of a loss earlier I followed the process of using my VIN to locate the same (UK) units that's i'm swapping, and then simply swapping to "right hand traffic" (using autodoc.nl). I take most comfort in knowing i'm getting the correct corresponding units (as far as autodoc's records dictate).
This has again led me to the OEMs:

"906 820 05 61"
"906 820 06 61"

Units purchased:

- https://www.autodoc.nl/hella/929603
- https://www.autodoc.nl/hella/929602

As a result of my last purchase with this same OEM but incompatible connection, i went ahead and purchased a couple of Hella units. It sounds like this was the right move given you've seen disparity in the connectors with non Hella parts.

They should arrive tomorrow and i'll update the thread with all the numbers. This will include the fog lights as i've been through this process also

Looks right from what I can tell hope the connectors are correct. I found the same on https://www.daparto.nl/Teilenummernsuche/Hella/1eb247012021
Good luck and have a bright summer

 

[matt penrice]

Thanks.

Seems I've gotten things muddled somehow.

The OEM I bought before but didn't fit was this - "906 820 02 61". You're confirming that the pins look like a match. This may be explainable as you say however by the non-Hella manufacturer.

The OEMs for this next set i have arriving are:

"906 820 05 61"
"906 820 06 61"

which is obviously different. I'm fairly confident in how i arrived at this new set of number

I guess proof is in the pudding tomorrow

 

[Oldspanners]

Thanks.

Seems I've gotten things muddled somehow.

The OEM I bought before but didn't fit was this - "906 820 02 61". You're confirming that the pins look like a match. This may be explainable as you say however by the non-Hella manufacturer.

The OEMs for this next set i have arriving are:

"906 820 05 61"
"906 820 06 61"

which is obviously different. I'm fairly confident in how i arrived at this new set of number

I guess proof is in the pudding tomorrow

1EB 247 012-021​

1EB 247 012-021
The Hella number is the same as I found just a better price on Daparto so looking OK.