Help Please

[daznmagz]

:Oops: i have just purchased a 1981 230ce, person who sold it to me said the car was running till he parked it up, no charge so could not try and turn it over, got it home on a low loader, i have been had! engine jams when you try to start it, not seized pistons and valves move, turn engine back 1/4 TURN and it frees up but it will only move 1/4 TURN EACH WAY,any sugestions would be appreiciated have tried to get a manual but mercedes say they do not do one anymore please help!!!!!!!!!!! :cry:

 

[andy_k]

almost impossible to guess at and you are most likely going to have to strip the engine down until you find the fault

Personally I'd take the car back on a low loader and dump it on the sellers drive.

Unless the rest of the car is exceptional it may turn out to be uneconomical to repair.

Andy

 

[daznmagz]

wish it was that easy seller not nice, going to strip her down ,but need manual, but i am going to dump on sellers drive, got to be dark though and i dont need a low loader for a toilet roll

 

[rob hamill]

hire a car...then run him over

 

[squealinneil]

How much did you pay?

 

[daznmagz]

no money left to hire a car need it for rebuild.paid £300 but car is immaculate

 

[mazza190]

Might have the answer!!

Dude listen

I was able to get my hands on a cd rom manual which even covers the 190 cossies, thats how I was able to do some work on my 2.3-16. I have just checked and I think it covers all models starting 1981....however this is a big application and runs from CD, but if you need a particular area let me know I'll try look in system...

 

[paulcallender]

no money left to hire a car need it for rebuild.paid £300 but car is immaculate

You have successfully purchased a 'spares/repair' car. The bit you need to repair is the engine; the rest of it is currently spares, until you have a working engine.

At the very least, you should take the rocker cover off and look at the timing chain, action of the camshaft and check its valve timing is correct. Also, remove the distributor and check its drive is working too. It could be fluid in the cylinders, it would be worthwhile taking the spark plugs out and trying again to turn it by hand. And while they're out, filling each cylinder with oil and turning it over and over.

If you are interested, I think I have a spare Haynes manual for this model.

 

[daznmagz]

i would be very intrested in haynes manual just let me know how much and i will send money through post thanks.have had rocker cover off and slackened all tappets and engine still does same i am going to strip it down so any literature would be appreciated many thanks. mazza190 if it would be possible to print any info on removal of engine and strip down i would be happy to pay and be very gratefull thank you all for your help and advice.

 

[andy_k]

without wishing to offend you....

As has been said before what you have there is a spares or repair car, if you get around to engine rebuilding on a car of that age be ready for lots of expense.

If the engine is knackered then I'd suggest one of two options,

1, buy a second hand engine from a specialist breaker such as Mercman, The Garage, Dronsfields etc. It's going to cost you money but it will be cheaper than a full rebuild

2, break the car and sell it for spares - if the bodywork and interior are good you will most likely make a profit.

My heart says keep the car and rebuild it and if it were springtime I probably would but with winter just around the corner and the prospect of cold, wet and dark evenings my head says you've been ripped off, take it on the chin get shot of the car and recoup as much of your losses as you can.

Just a thought though - remove the starter motor then try and turn the engine manually.

Andy

 

[paulcallender]

I've just looked at the manual, I made a small error, as the one I have covers the 6 cylinder W123s (250 and 280), and you have a 4 cylinder car. Are you still interested? In any case, I may as well sell the manual, so if anyone else wants it, its in the "for sale" area: http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?p=71906

 

[daznmagz]

hi have no intention of giving up on her have already become attatched to car will try taking starter off have nice big shed to work in with large kettle to keep me warm i really have a good feeling about this car but i understand what you say wish me luck as i am going outside and i may not be back for a while

 

[paulcallender]

hi have no intention of giving up on her have already become attatched to car will try taking starter off have nice big shed to work in with large kettle to keep me warm i really have a good feeling about this car but i understand what you say wish me luck as i am going outside and i may not be back for a while

LOL....I have a starter motor too, if you want to swap-test one. Its off a 110 motor, though.

 

[paulcallender]

In fact, I have a number of other parts which might be useful....

 

[rob hamill]

nice car...needs lowered though

 

[davidsl500]

think you need a bit of T Cut to get the blemishes off that Paul....