HELP!!!!! SL R129 Problem

[Speedmaster]

TELEVISION !!!

We have just taken the glass roof off the SL tonight and cannot get the roof to raise. The roll bar is working. We took hard top off and then put the parking brake on and pushed the red roof switch downwards and all it does is flash - no windows go down or anything! We have followed everything in the book but the roof will no raise, is there an isolator switch or something????

Help

 

[television]

Number one, run the engine, the switch should be pushed forward, give it a go.

Malcolm

 

[Speedmaster]

tried it with engine running and also with ignition at pos 2 as per the manual. You push the switch and it just flashes. Should it be a continous solid red light?

 

[television]

Did the hard top release ok on its own, the switch should be pushed forward for roof up. On car cars before 1995 the fashing spells out the fault code. I would try and put the roof up manuel with the keys and go on from there. Or you could disconnect battery for 5 mins and try again.

malcolm

 

[Speedmaster]

The glass roof released perfectly well on its own as it should.

Been pushing switch forward and all it does is flash, the windows do not lower like I think they should?

Tried the roll bar switch and that goes up and down ok

Wil have a look and see how to do it manually.

Was excited about getting the roof of for the weekend, this was not the plan!!!!

 

[television]

My reason for doing it manual is maybe the odd switch is stuck or got out of sync. the key goes into the two holes at the top in boot. at this stage it is too hard to say much, the windows go down as the back opens. I am away from home working all day tomorrow until 6pm. let me have the first 6 numbers of VIN 129---

Malcolm

 

[Speedmaster]

vin is 1290642F1

if i disconnect the battery, will i lose the radio - I dont have the code for it??

Also, when you release the hard-top, is it meant to make a sort of loud releasing sound - almost a bang??

 

[television]

Yes you will loose the code for Radio, Yes it makes a loud bang when hard top is released, also soft top makes a bang when front catches release.

I will see what I can find out with your VIN, as I said on your car the flashing is the fault code being read out by the switch. you could count the flashes.

malcolm

 

[television]

You could try and normallize the front windows by raising and holding the switches for 10 secs, do each one.
This must be done with the ignition on
Malcolm

 

[Speedmaster]

tried the window thing and nothing.

If you pull the botttom (as you would to close it), you can hear a whirring motor sound.
Pushing it does nothing, the switch just flashes red. I counted up to 32 flashes but it is just continuous flashing.

Am not sure what to do with it now. I appreciate the help though Malcolm.

I guess it maybe needs to go to the main dealer??

 

[television]

Don't give up yet, Put the hard top back on, make sure that all four locks work.. The roof cannot work it the windows are not normallized, your windows should drop ½ inch when you open the door, and go up when the door is closed, so put the roof on, with the ignition on close the windows holding the button for 10 sec. Make sure that the roll bar switch is not flashing, I do not think that you have a real fault at this stage. I will talk tommorow.
To raise manual, the key goes into slot each side of the roll bar and back lid.
If it is the locks, if you try and drive the car, the gong will sound and switch will flash
Malcom

 

[Speedmaster]

This woul dbe easier in daylight!!!! lol

I think I have found a fault. We tried to put hard top back on but it will not site flush. After some investgating, the catches in the back two holes for the hard-top (at back corners of hard-top behind the roll bar) are not the same. One catch seems to be locked up and the other is down. So I am thinking one of the cacthes is stuck in place and that is why hard top not going on. Perhaps there is a sensor and because it has not clicked out of position, the car thinks the hard-top is still in place and will not raise the soft-top. Need to work out which catch is stuck now and to get into it

 

[davidsl500]

oooohh ! roof problem - main dealer = ouch!!

I take it when you bought the SL that you checked the soft top was working okay ? (please say yes!)

The flashing light indicates a fault (but you know that!). If you havent had it off for some time then it is not uncommon for little niggles to occur - there are lots of sensors everywhere.

Malcolm's suggestion to manually raise it is the best idea, its detailed in the owners manual and the tool should be in the boot tool kit.

It can be caused by a battery not up to the job. On a previous thread last year even running the engine didnt help, but replacing the battery did. I know you have a problem with the code for the radio - if its the original radio then a main dealer should be able to look up the code. I wouldnt try to charge the battery whilst it is connected - too much risk of damage to sensitive (and expensive) electronic components.

Might be an idea to check the hydraulic oil level as well. Try the manual raise first and good luck !




OOPS, things have moved on..

 

[television]

That should be it, there is means to unlock all four hydraulic locks by hand, if one of these has failed it is easy to change the O rings. this will as you say stop the soft top from working. good luck.

malcolm

 

[Speedmaster]

It is times like these I am thankful for this forum!!! I really do appreciaye it guys.

Current situation (apart from me wanting to go to bed and an early meeting tomorrow) is that we have released the catch and now when pressing the swicth to lower the roof it no longer flashes, it is just a solid red light (which is how I think it should be) but the roof still not working. The lid over the soft-top does not seem to be realsing, I can hear the motors trying to push against it. So i think the problem of no power for the roof is solved but for some reason the catch on the lid is not releasing.

So I have popped in in the garage with the roof down tonight and will try the manual method tomorrow - will do anything to avoid the main dealer!!!!!

I am hopeful it is a simple little niggle, such as a sticky catch.

The roof was working at purchase David.

Thanks again, will see how we go tomorrow

 

[Speedmaster]

Current situation is got the roof up manually most of the way, attached at the front but cant get it down at the back as one of the furthest rear catches seems to be stcuk down, so will not grap the hook on the base of the roof when it is lowered. So cant lock it into position

 

[television]

I have just started up my Goliath computer, takes ½ hour to get it running, back soon.

malcolm

 

[television]

You will have to do a re set by disconnecting battery. I friend of mine last year while taking off the hard top got into problems, his wife not being as strong as him could not lift the rood evenly and one of the back locks jamed.
A re set put it all back to normal, I will get my car out first thing in the morning and look at the rear locks, and come back then around 9 AM.

Malcolm

 

[Speedmaster]

Thanks Malcolm, really appreciate it.
If I cant sort it tomorrow, the clk is going down to the dealer for a service on monday so can quiz them about the SL. Would rather sort it myself. managed to take it for spin today in the blazing sunshine, loved it!!!

 

[davidsl500]

Ask the dealer whilst your there if they can look up the radio security code for your SL - assuming that its the original radio unit.