hid

[hopeful]

hid kit is it worth it (seemed brighter and clearer ,same distance) concerns are canbus ,ecu and other interference

is this a con statement
The Canbus Pro kit is a quality HID conversion kit that will not damage any of the cars electronic systems due to its unique soft start and it will -- fool the cars on board computer to overcome the pre-programmed anti-HID conversion settings made by the manufacturers. -- The quality of the kit speaks for itself with quality matching OEM factory fitted HID Xenon.


i would like to see the road, thought about a lightbar or led spots in the lower light

there are kits out there have newer better ballast for h7 all comes with harness and coolers

your thoughts please

been reading a/e magazine 2020 on h4 nightbreakers etc
is there difference between h4 and h7 bulb standard output or or is it just the fitting difference

night breaker claim 150% better light is that possibe / any one use them really see the difference

 

[hopeful]

hi done some research
https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/blog/are-led-headlights-legal-in-the-uk/
so its 9" hella spots cable tied to the grill then, ha

edit superb read
LED CANBus Errors

mmm possibility

reading the above .autobulbs seems contradictory, states we have done the work for ie which is legal and not and why
e markings for eurpoe not us becaus of legislation, ( have not got off our bums)

anywho found this e marked and apparently legal led

H7 Ring Xenon150 +150% 12V 55W 477 Halogen Bulbs (Pair)
5 (based on 33 reviews)">

(4.73 based on 33 reviews)

• Up to 150% more light on the road. Rings' brightest performance halogen yet.
• Up to 80m longer beam pattern.
• No compromise on life compared to other performance halogens.
• Fully "E" marked & road legal.

 

[V6Matty]

Stick to the night breaker and leave the rest alone, you won’t get better without upgrading the light cluster, lam cleaner, level sensors to get up to factory spec xenon

 

[Gazwould]

Weird that there are E marked LED about .

 

[Craiglxviii]

Not this again!

Just because lamps are E-marked doesn’t make fitting them in a car designed for different light source lamps, legal.

LED lamps have entirely different flux emission patterns to filament lamps. They just don’t work properly in reflector assemblies designed for filament lamps; there will be poorly focused beam edges and dark spots when using an LED lamp in this way. It’s telling that a properly designed LED lamp has the same form as a hockey puck, not a car headlight.

Fitting HiD lamp conversion kits into a car with halogen lamps is straight illegal, without bringing the lighting system function to the same condition as that car would have in its HiD homologated version. Headlamp levelling and headlamp wash system are the general requirements. That usually involves a bumper change too. So, once all that is taken into account it’s typically far cheaper and easier to upgrade the halogen lamps instead...

... and the consistently brightest lamps going, across all form factors, are Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited.

 

[davidsl500]

On E marking, You have to appreciate that many chinese manufacturers will put whatever markings on components that you want...Some have a tick box list !

 

[Gazwould]

Yes , appreciate that , this one has a legit? certificate .

 

[Gazwould]

Not this again!

Just because lamps are E-marked doesn’t make fitting them in a car designed for different light source lamps, legal.

LED lamps have entirely different flux emission patterns to filament lamps. They just don’t work properly in reflector assemblies designed for filament lamps; there will be poorly focused beam edges and dark spots when using an LED lamp in this way. It’s telling that a properly designed LED lamp has the same form as a hockey puck, not a car headlight.

Fitting HiD lamp conversion kits into a car with halogen lamps is straight illegal, without bringing the lighting system function to the same condition as that car would have in its HiD homologated version. Headlamp levelling and headlamp wash system are the general requirements. That usually involves a bumper change too. So, once all that is taken into account it’s typically far cheaper and easier to upgrade the halogen lamps instead...

... and the consistently brightest lamps going, across all form factors, are Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited.

OK yes illegal , do you think in a projector housing LED can attain correct beam pattern ?


"... and the consistently brightest lamps going, across all form factors, are Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited."


And not their latest ones ?

 

[Craiglxviii]

OK yes illegal , do you think in a projector housing LED can attain correct beam pattern ?

In a projector lamp? No. The PES unit works entirely opposite to the way an LED collimstor does. So that’s a contradiction in terms.
In a reflector lamp? You’ll get a beam pattern, but not a good one and- crucially- not the beam pattern that lamp was homologated onto the car with.

 

[Craiglxviii]

Yes , appreciate that , this one has a legit? certificate .

View attachment 63542

Sure. That’s a fully legit E mark certificate for an LED K8 lamp.

That doesn’t mean that a K8 lamp is interchangeable with say an H7 halogen lamp, in any fitting homologated for an H7 lamp.

 

[Craiglxviii]

This is what an LED lamp looks like when designed from a clean sheet of paper purely for LED technology. You’ll notice the flatness, the metal volume used for a heat sink and the absence of any form of reflector. The lensing on this lamp is 8mm deep and it produces a beam pattern broadly comparable with a car’s high beam (just 15x brighter in this case).

 

[LostKiwi]

OK yes illegal , do you think in a projector housing LED can attain correct beam pattern ?


"... and the consistently brightest lamps going, across all form factors, are Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited."


And not their latest ones ?

Irrelevant since they're illegal anyway.

 

[LostKiwi]

Yes , appreciate that , this one has a legit? certificate .

View attachment 63542

Here are the specs for halogen bulbs.
If you look at UNECE regulations there is no way any LED can be legal without a significant change in the rules.
The document you want is called r037r7e.pdf.

 

[Craiglxviii]

OK yes illegal , do you think in a projector housing LED can attain correct beam pattern ?


"... and the consistently brightest lamps going, across all form factors, are Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited."


And not their latest ones ?

Sorry I didn’t see that last question.

No. The Unlimited range and the Laser range of Nightbreaker lamps have identical brightness performance, the Laser range being mainly a marketing ploy.

In fact, I’ve just read their marketing bumph and it looks like the Unlimited range is being subsumed into Laser, not that it makes a difference as they’re pretty much the same thing anyway.

 

[JBell]

In fact, I’ve just read their marketing bumph and it looks like the Unlimited range is being subsumed into Laser, not that it makes a difference as they’re pretty much the same thing anyway.

I just bought Lasers as Unlimited were a ridiculous price

 

[Gazwould]

The Osram (H7) progression.

Night Breaker Plus +90%
Night Breaker Unlimited +110%
Night Breaker Laser +130%
Night Breaker Laser Next Generation +150%

 

[JBell]

The Osram (H7) progression.

Night Breaker Plus +90%
Night Breaker Unlimited +110%
Night Breaker Laser +130%
Night Breaker Laser Next Generation +150%

These were the best value on Amazon

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[EmilysDad]

having once bought a pair of 'uprated' H7 bulbs I couldn't see that the difference in price was worth the apparent improvement in light output.

 

[Gazwould]

Maybe the smallest at best it's an ancient technology that's been succeeded twice .

I bought Night Breaker Plus and they lasted a year despite the marketing..




Thankfully the S204 has xenons .

 

[Craiglxviii]

The Osram (H7) progression.

Night Breaker Plus +90%
Night Breaker Unlimited +110%
Night Breaker Laser +130%
Night Breaker Laser Next Generation +150%

Forget the “+150%” claims and look at the spec sheets. Osram are one of the few lamp manufacturers making these updated lamps that give hard numbers; there is no difference- as in, zero- between the luminous flux output of an H7 Unlimited to a Laser to a Laser Next Gen. The figures are the same. They all put out 1500lm with a +-10% flux tolerance.