Interesting. Worth a read.

[oigle]

Seba says EV longevity and autonomy will cause global new car sales to plunge 75%

Cofounder of RethinkX Tony Seba says electric cars could hit 50% of new car sales in China this year, and EV longevity will result in a 75% reduction in global sales by 2030.

thedriven.io

 

[ajlsl600]

Was. But I still think hydrogen will take over.
Wot about grid support, which in UK is crxp. Wot about buying cars where makers change, reduce charging rates and reduce the attraction (which I am sure is, behind scenes gov led due to unprepared grid, charge points)
Wot about the green, non, effects or half tonne of plastic , collected from all over the world and recycling of the same.
For me the jury is still out. I won't be buying any duracells.(only practical version is electric /small ice) so now owner has two systems to maintain!! But at least one WILL get home. I see situation as similar beta max, VHS, with VHS (hydrogen) just around the corner

 

[Botus]

was just reading about E fuels - split water to get the hydrogen, add carbon from the atmosphere, and you get carbon neutral fuel without ethanol rot inside - can go straight in your old cars and runs and works much the same - EU already agreed ICE cars in 2035 won't be on the banned list so long as vehicles are built to block filling with old world petrol

UK saying no way... because the plan is to LOCK US UP, not allow subversives to travel at will where and when you want - without the gov approving and thus controlling every meter you are allowed to move - thats why we really have the electric car madness in such full force

you don't need a paradigm shift to understand what I've been saying on the other thread for 2 years - you need to look at what your governments are doing to you - as for the OP - they (as in our they) appear to have infected your place and got it fully sewn up this year.... welcome to the disaster club

 

[Kudly]

Self-driving cars seem a long way off. Many if not most drivers enjoy driving. Touch of fantasy from Mr Seba by the sound of him and his followers.
Example given of cost of car ownership versus subscription to autonomous taxi service does not add up, cheaper in his own example to invest in car ownership.

 

[ajlsl600]

When self drive are running who gets their no claims fd up in accident the maker of ai or as ussual Joe public. Nah! Won't be goin anywhere near it.

 

[Larkone]

Still hampered by no supporting infrastructure in the UK - who is planning/paying to upgrade the generation, sub stations, transformers and cables to support EVs and ASHPs as they are supposed to roll out at the same time? We are struggling to support our current needs and the hotter summers mean more will install AC systems ahead of the EV and ASHP rollout

 

[Frontstep]

An interesting time of flux as technology makes some significant strides and as we all remember it isn't always the best tech that wins.

At the moment the rush to Duracell cars brings up so many potential problems not least "charging anxiety" forget the range anxiety most of us rarely travel more than 300 miles in one go but dead chargers, no chargers and the time taken are very off-putting.

The amount of things the faux green lobby wants to stick on the end of a windmill connected by a dodgy grid is plainly illogical and we just know it will be so much more expensive.

A spell of the doldrums in winter and were all stuck and cold.

It's not too popular but for me, the thing that supports our windmills and solar is under our feet it's gas, relatively clean 85% of homes and so many businesses rely on it.

Then we can have an orderly and measured transition.

Let's get fracking, shipping it over from the US is not green and yes we need some legislative changes to the energy market.

Perhaps I need some let's get highly mobile fracking activists to "photo bomb" the stop oil protests.

I wonder if I funded some she who must be obeyed once a month would be spitting feathers

 

[lewyboy]

I drove a small EV convertible yesterday, it was ****** awesome!

 

[lewyboy]

An interesting time of flux as technology makes some significant strides and as we all remember it isn't always the best tech that wins.

At the moment the rush to Duracell cars brings up so many potential problems not least "charging anxiety" forget the range anxiety most of us rarely travel more than 300 miles in one go but dead chargers, no chargers and the time taken are very off-putting.

The amount of things the faux green lobby wants to stick on the end of a windmill connected by a dodgy grid is plainly illogical and we just know it will be so much more expensive.

A spell of the doldrums in winter and were all stuck and cold.

It's not too popular but for me, the thing that supports our windmills and solar is under our feet it's gas, relatively clean 85% of homes and so many businesses rely on it.

Then we can have an orderly and measured transition.

Let's get fracking, shipping it over from the US is not green and yes we need some legislative changes to the energy market.

Perhaps I need some let's get highly mobile fracking activists to "photo bomb" the stop oil protests.

I wonder if I funded some she who must be obeyed once a month would be spitting feathers

Apparently the one I drove was powered by a Samsung battery not Duracell

 

[s5tuart]

We are struggling to support our current needs and the hotter summers mean more will install AC systems ahead of the EV and ASHP rollout

I’ve done just that! Sold my modern diesel, bought a 20 year old SL and installed heat pump tech in my apartment. Hot in the winter, cold in the summer and only using enough electricity to run the compressor and internal fans.

 

[ajlsl600]

An interesting time of flux as technology makes some significant strides and as we all remember it isn't always the best tech that wins.

At the moment the rush to Duracell cars brings up so many potential problems not least "charging anxiety" forget the range anxiety most of us rarely travel more than 300 miles in one go but dead chargers, no chargers and the time taken are very off-putting.

The amount of things the faux green lobby wants to stick on the end of a windmill connected by a dodgy grid is plainly illogical and we just know it will be so much more expensive.

A spell of the doldrums in winter and were all stuck and cold.

It's not too popular but for me, the thing that supports our windmills and solar is under our feet it's gas, relatively clean 85% of homes and so many businesses rely on it.

Then we can have an orderly and measured transition.

Let's get fracking, shipping it over from the US is not green and yes we need some legislative changes to the energy market.

Perhaps I need some let's get highly mobile fracking activists to "photo bomb" the stop oil protests.

I wonder if I funded some she who must be obeyed once a month would be spitting feathers

I have no issues with wind generators or f fracking, as long as it all starts at gov ministers properties. (wots good for goose is good for gander and f the nimby, s
If it ain't goin next to them it ain't goin next to me.

 

[Botus]

fuel / energy source is NOT the issue - short term the game is for you to stay locked up permanently, paying to watch Netflix with slave food delivered by a hoodie

otherwise your privileges (AKA Internet / Netflix, and Uber eats) will be switched off for a week.

Travel is NOT part of the plan, the "E revolution" is exactly that - its just a misleading part of entrapping you in your prison cell.

No always on spying device, subversive private movements to people not on their approved list, use of physical money etc. will see your charging point out of service. Complain and things will get quite unpalatable - but what will you do? you'll need to learn to shut up fast or suffer more....

in not many more years Netflix and slave food will have been utopia - the next phase, is why you need to stop your governments activity today !

 

[Frontstep]

They keep building us bike/bus lanes, big train sets, and pushing us to buy electric cars Travel is very much part of the plan.

 

[davidsl500]

These are the lunatics that we all need to keep a look out for. Sunak and Co are fully signed up to these bozos. Off Course, none of it will apply to WEF Founder Klaus Schwab or his mates like Bill Gates etc.,

Goodbye car ownership, hello clean air: welcome to the future of transport | World Economic Forum

 

[Botus]

They keep building us bike/bus lanes, big train sets, and pushing us to buy electric cars Travel is very much part of the plan.

wrong

they keep blocking up streets making journey times slower and slower, cameras watching everything - they never repair the roads and the train schemes are just massive theft taking 20 years to mess up the countryside


you aint going anywhere ever.... (well u r and they'll be delivering on that "promise" soon enough), it appears u guys can't understand anything they have been doing for 50 years....

 

[lewyboy]

wrong

they keep blocking up streets making journey times slower and slower, cameras watching everything - they never repair the roads and the train schemes are just massive theft taking 20 years to mess up the countryside


you aint going anywhere ever.... (well u r and they'll be delivering on that "promise" soon enough), it appears u guys can't understand anything they have been doing for 50 years....

Have you always been so miserable or was there an event in your life to make you like this?

 

[Botus]

they did it - what did u expect me to say ?

what makes it harder to swallow - is how obvious it is and how they are ruining all your lives - yet apparently I'm the problem...

 

[horatio]

They keep building us bike/bus lanes, big train sets, and pushing us to buy electric cars Travel is very much part of the plan.

Well the £squillion train set goes from London to Birmingham. There’s already a train that does that. It’s not like they are reopening all the branch lines. And why do they want electric cars and smart meters so badly while investing virtually nothing into the grid. I can’t say I’m convinced to say the least.

 

[Blobcat]

Well the £squillion train set goes from London to Birmingham. There’s already a train that does that. It’s not like they are reopening all the branch lines. And why do they want electric cars and smart meters so badly while investing virtually nothing into the grid. I can’t say I’m convinced to say the least.

So they can take power back out of the EV when the grid can’t cope… getting motorists to pay for the energy storage makes perfect financial sense (for them*…)



*them being the energy companies

 

[rorywquin]

Well the £squillion train set goes from London to Birmingham. There’s already a train that does that. It’s not like they are reopening all the branch lines. And why do they want electric cars and smart meters so badly while investing virtually nothing into the grid. I can’t say I’m convinced to say the least.

If there was no forward planning & progress, there would still be horse and carriage running between London & Birmingham. I lived in Tokyo and the Shinkanzen was incredibly convenient for those journeys that are too close to fly & too far to drive.

I guess the brigade that complains about HS2 would probably be the same mob that complained about the chunnel & HS link to Europe but happily use it.

When I first arrived in the UK, 23 years ago, I could not believe that using a mainline train into London meant opening a window in the pouring rain, & sticking my hand out the window to open the door.

We need to build for the future.